Panthers have reached out to Minnesota for Kirk Cousins

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

I just don’t know how they would go about fixing the OL if they took on Cousins contract. 

That’s why I say a swap of 1st round picks would be crucial. We wouldn’t have much left in FA. Although if you trade for Cousins you’d most likely be extending him. I’m sure they’d backload the contract.

I don't think there's any planning whatsoever other than desperately seeking to get lucky while overspending for veteran QBs the rest of the league is moving on from.

[mrcompletely11]

4 minutes ago, joemac said:

Lol, yeah totally. All of Cousins teammates everywhere he’s ever been hate his guts. Where are you even getting this from? Bullshit put out by Minnesota so they don’t have to give him a big money extension?

Jesus Christ does your google not work.  Folks in washington hated him and folks in Minny (including the god damn coaches) hate him

[Ricky Spanish]

Stafford is a better QB than Cousins. 

Cousins gets the volume stats that look pretty on paper, but as far as playing the position, he is Teddy Bridgewater in his final form. 

People were clowning on Stafford for his pick in the endzone during the super bowl. Situationally though, it was the right call. They were out of FG range, it was 3rd and long, and he had a guy in the end zone. It became an arm punt and the Bengals got a touchback. The risk reward was worth it to attempt the shot. Good QBs have that situational awareness to know when to take those risks.

Cousins does NOT have that situational awareness. If it's 4th and 10 and the team is down a score late in the fourth, Cousins will hit his open safety outlet to gain 7 yards when he instead has a one on one matchup 20 yards down the sidelines. Is it technically the "right" throw because it's safe and he's open? Yes. It pads the stats and makes him look efficient. But is it really the right throw if it doesn't actually result in the team getting closer to win?

There's a reason that Stafford has the most Comeback wins in the NFL since he became a starter. Dude has ice in his veins and he is willing to take the risk it for the biscuit throws because he's not a wuss. 

 

[joemac]

2 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Stafford is a better QB than Cousins. 

Cousins gets the volume stats that look pretty on paper, but as far as playing the position, he is Teddy Bridgewater in his final form. 

People were clowning on Stafford for his pick in the endzone during the super bowl. Situationally though, it was the right call. They were out of FG range, it was 3rd and long, and he had a guy in the end zone. It became an arm punt and the Bengals got a touchback. The risk reward was worth it to attempt the shot. Good QBs have that situational awareness to know when to take those risks.

Cousins does NOT have that situational awareness. If it's 4th and 10 and the team is down a score late in the fourth, Cousins will hit his open safety outlet to gain 7 yards when he instead has a one on one matchup 20 yards down the sidelines. Is it technically the "right" throw because it's safe and he's open? Yes. It pads the stats and makes him look efficient. But is it really the right throw if it doesn't actually result in the team getting closer to win?

There's a reason that Stafford has the most Comeback wins in the NFL since he became a starter. Dude has ice in his veins and he is willing to take the risk it for the biscuit throws because he's not a wuss. 

 

66%, 4200 yards, 33 TDs, 7 INTs. Show me 1 Carolina QB who’s EVER put up a season like that. I’ll wait. 

[Shocker]

We will probably trade 6 for him and Minnesota will take Willis who becomes the next Mahomes.  

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, joemac said:

66%, 4200 yards, 33 TDs, 7 INTs. Show me 1 Carolina QB who’s EVER put up a season like that. I’ll wait. 

8-8

[joemac]

2 minutes ago, Shocker said:

We will probably trade 6 for him and Minnesota will take Willis who becomes the next Mahomes.  

Willis had 13 picks at Liberty against weak ass competition. He’d be a 3rd round pick in any other draft. 

[joemac]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

8-8

You equate QBs to wins like they’re starting pitchers in MLB

[joemac]

2 minutes ago, jackson113 said:

Mid QB

3rd rated passer in the NFL

pick one

[Shocker]

6 minutes ago, joemac said:

Willis had 13 picks at Liberty against weak ass competition. He’d be a 3rd round pick in any other draft. 

Yeah, I am with you…just saying with our luck he will be amazing 

[Ricky Spanish]

14 minutes ago, joemac said:

66%, 4200 yards, 33 TDs, 7 INTs. Show me 1 Carolina QB who’s EVER put up a season like that. I’ll wait. 

One played in the Void of success that is Detroit for 12 years.

Kirk Cousins is a true stat pader. Matt Stafford is a baller. 

Would Cousins instantly improve our QB situation? Of course he would. 

Would he get us over the hump and into the post season? Most likely no. He's incredibly expensive and the cost to trade for him is most likely not worth what the end result would be. He does not elevate the team around him so he is not worth it. 

Stay away from Qirk Qousins.

[Jon Snow]

41 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've generally put Stafford and Cousins in the same tier of QB.

Stafford has elevated himself. Don't know if Cousins will but if we get him, I hope so.

Stafford finally got a good coach with a well built team.  He's always been a good qb, just on a bad team.

Had he came here he would still be a good qb but on another bad team with bad coaches. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Stafford finally got a good coach with a well built team.  He's always been a good qb, just on a bad team.

Had he came here he would still be a good qb but on another bad team with bad coaches. 

No argument...

[*FreeFua*]

34 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm done hoping for Tepper's poo show. I'm just hoping at this point that Howell finds a nice landing spot in the draft. Tepper took a mediocre franchise that occasionally flirted with greatness and turned it into the joke of the league with stunning efficiency. This poo is over folks.

Yep.

Rhule is an awful head coach and all that but firing Rhule doesn’t solve this organizations biggest problem…

David Tepper

We’re honestly so f*cked