Tepper hired a private investigator to look into Deshaun Watson

[thefuzz]

2 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

The Tepper hate is way overboard on here. He's only had the team a few years, he did the right thing by not immediately making changes like a lot of owners do but evaluate the current regime, he's been aggressive in trying to get a franchise QB according to sources and doesn't mind paying any amount for the coaching staff. He took a gamble on Rhule (who was a hot coaching candidate btw) and possibly lost, and now he's a "football dumbass"? Is there anyone on here that really could have done better? Almost all of you would have hired Rhule and exactly all of you were orgasming over the Joe Brady hire. 

Dave?

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

The Tepper hate is way overboard on here. He's only had the team a few years, he did the right thing by not immediately making changes like a lot of owners do but evaluate the current regime, he's been aggressive in trying to get a franchise QB according to sources and doesn't mind paying any amount for the coaching staff. He took a gamble on Rhule (who was a hot coaching candidate btw) and possibly lost, and now he's a "football dumbass"? Is there anyone on here that really could have done better? Almost all of you would have hired Rhule and exactly all of you were orgasming over the Joe Brady hire. 

He kept a sh-tty GM.

He praised that sh-tty GM as one of the best talent evaluators in the league.

He fired an underperforming head coach when he should have fired the GM first.

Then he let the sh-tty GM lead the search for our next head coach.

Unsurprisingly, sh-tty GM found a sh-tty college coach.

Tepper stupidly hired that head coach, but didn't stop there.

(but wait...theres more)

First, he gave Rhule a ridiculous contract that pays him as much as the Rams pay Sean McVay.

Then, even worse, he gave him full control.

Two years later, when it became obvious to pretty much everybody except Tepper that the head coach he gave the ridiculous contract and full power to was woefully underqualified, Tepper still decided to give him another year.

Now he's looking at trading crazy assets away from a rebuilding team in order to get a quarterback who's in a load of legal trouble.

And the most fun part of it all, he actually still seems to believe he's smart.

Oy

So to sum it all up, yes he's a football dumbass.

Honestly, dumbass might not even be a strong enough word.

Edited March 10, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[Panthering]

Who the heck is Aaron Wilson? Who is his source? Anyways, if we really did hire an investigator then dang we are certainly interested. Don't feel good about it.... don't feel good about it at all.

[LinvilleGorge]

35 minutes ago, hepcat said:

I think you're 100% right about that. Tepper has proven to be impatient, willing to make aggressive splash moves (as we saw with the early season trades last season), and he's also a very proud man to the point of arrogance. He's clearly embarrassed his decisions have turned the team into a laughing stock of the NFL, with other franchise calling the operation "amateur-ish".

So Tepper doesn't have many options right now. Trading for Watson is the best one left on the table, even if it comes at the cost of having to salvage the reputation of an accused sexual predator, regardless of the outcome of the criminal charges.

And it's just so f*cking sad this is what the Panthers have become. I am already not a fan of David Tepper because of what he has done to the Panthers, but for many long-time fans, trading for Watson would probably be the last straw. The mo

And there's very little guarantee the move produces a winning team. The 2020 Texans were a mess despite Watson's elite QB play. It goes to show you can't put the carriage before the horse - the Panthers roster is not ready to compete and will be even further behind after a trade for Watson.

I think the overall roster is better than most think. Add an elite QB and a couple of legit starting OL and you have a playoff team. Of course, we're going to lose Reddick, Gilmore, and Jackson so the D very well may take a step back but the offensive skill positions are pretty darn good. The problem with trading for Watson is that you're going to have to give up some good young pieces, a ton of draft capital, and give up a lot of cap space. By fixing your biggest hole you've pretty much condemned yourself to having an overall heavily flawed roster for years to come.

[Billy Love]

He should try hiring a head coach

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Panthering said:

Who the heck is Aaron Wilson? Who is his source? Anyways, if we really did hire an investigator then dang we are certainly interested. Don't feel good about it.... don't feel good about it at all.

Wilson is actually a really good reporter, but I've been getting a weird vibe from him over the last year or so.

Since he got fired from The Houston Chronicle, he seems a little different. He floated around independently for a while before latching on to Pro Football Network. Found that kind of strange given his reputation.

Add in that recently I had a chance to hear him on a radio interview and something just sounded...off. Felt almost like he'd been drinking or something. It was just weird.

But yeah, all that stuff aside he's generally been very reliable source.

I just don't know if there's something going on with him in his personal life.

Edited March 10, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[therealmjl]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He kept a sh-tty GM.

He praised that sh-tty GM as one of the best talent evaluators in the league.

He fired an underperforming head coach when he should have fired the GM first.

Then he let the sh-tty GM lead the search for our next head coach.

Unsurprisingly, sh-tty GM found a sh-tty college coach.

Tepper stupidly hired that head coach, but didn't stop there.

(but wait...theres more)

First, he gave Rhule a ridiculous contract that pays him as much as the Rams pay Sean McVay.

Then, even worse, he gave him full control.

Two years later, when it became obvious to pretty much everybody except Tepper that the head coach he gave the ridiculous contract and full power to was woefully underqualified, Tepper still decided to give him another year.

Now he's looking at trading crazy assets away from a rebuilding team in order to get a quarterback who's in a load of legal trouble.

And the most fun part of it all, he actually still seems to believe he's smart.

Oy

So to sum it all up, yes he's a football dumbass.

Honestly, dumbass might not even be a strong enough word.

He also sucks as a soccer owner as well, let’s not forget that. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, therealmjl said:

He also sucks as a soccer owner as well, let’s not forget that. 

I'm not following the soccer side of things but I have heard some people allude to that.

[therealmjl]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not following the soccer side of things but I have heard some people allude to that.

His coach already wants to quit. 
 

Tepper flat out sucks at this whole sports team ownership deal.

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

His coach already wants to quit. 

Tepper flat out sucks at this whole sports team ownership deal.

Sizzlebuzz will be along shortly to explain how The Horsesh-t Way will make it all better.

[hepcat]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Sizzlebuzz will be along shortly to explain how The Horsesh-t Way will make it all better.

is he a paid tepper poster? someone here has to be a plant

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, hepcat said:

is he a paid tepper poster? someone here has to be a plant

I think he might be more of a nut than a plant

[joemac]

1 hour ago, hepcat said:

@Vergesaid Tepper hired the PI back in October. @ellisthen said Tepper was prepared to trade for Watson in November, regardless of the status of his criminal charges. 

Maybe he did have hesitation before he hired the PI, but if Ellis is right, whatever hesitation Tepper had seemed to have gone out the window given whatever the PI was able to report. 

Maybe the case against Watson is being dismissed, who knows. Either way, the reports Watson refused to waive his no-trade clause for the Panthers seems to ring true. And my comment about the Panthers simping for Watson despite the fact he already rejected them, DURING his criminal investigation, says a lot. 

Watson doesn't want to come to the Panthers. 

To be fair there is not one concrete report from Watson or his representation as to where he would or would not waive his no trade clause for.  The people who do know are not talking, and everybody else is just pulling poo out of their asses for clicks and views.

[joemac]

1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

This is where I am at in terms of the deal necessary to make this trade happen. 

At a certain point, it becomes less enticing of a destination for Watson based on the assets given up to acquire him. 

We're already strapped for talent and draft capital as is. Strip the next three drafts of 1st and 2nd round picks as well as take away two starting caliber players from our roster. We will solve the QB position but then we're out assets to recoup everything given up to get the QB. We would become the Fcuking Detroit Lions of the past decade with Stafford as their QB - Stud QB, terrible coaching, and no talent to surround said Stud QB. Watson would come into this team looking for talent and help like:

It's a net loss for us to get Watson based on the price tag alone not even taking into account the sexual assault allegations on top of it all. 

The same could be said for just about any other team he goes to, except maybe Seattle or Philly which both now have a ton of extra draft picks.  Any team who trades for him is going to take it on the chin in the compensation aspect of it.