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Jimmy G' s surgery.....

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onmyown Grand Master

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28 minutes ago, Centerfield said:

Would you rather have Jimmy G - Baker - Darnold - or Cam - starting week 1

Sam. Losing season either way, but higher pick. Not wasting more money either. Could’ve rolled 10m from last year instead of stupidly signing limp cam 3/4 into a pathetic season to appease fanboys and help Teps bottom line. How’s that helping now? Stop showing Tep that BS will work.

Quit making dumbass decisions and take the inevitable rebuilding lumps they’ve failed to do for three years which ended in results anyone except the Panther FO experts could’ve predicted.

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37 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Here's the main problem... he kinda sucks. We're sitting here asking ourselves if he can get back to that same baseline of suck. Yikes. I'd seriously rather just stick with Darnold. Throwing good money after bad I not the answer.

9ers are 31-14 with JimmyG.
Shanahan is 8-28 without JimmyG.

They went to the Super Bowl and 2 NFC Championship games in the last 3 years.

Jimmy had a higher passer rating than Mahommes last year.

He's a better QB than you are a moderator, or Panthers fan.

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It's hard to say. Far too many variables.

I do know you can and most times you add to the damage the injury/damage playing hurt, which JimmyG did. Need a few MRIs and elite doctors to give opinions. Plus everyone heals differently, is he more wolverine or glass?

JiimyG from what I know spends lots of time hurt/injured, hes always on the injury report with something. He also had a bad thumb this pass year. 

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27 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I love Cam, but I'd prefer he retire.

When Cam starts playing like garbage behind a legitimate offensive line with formidable weapons and a full offseason, pre-season I'll come to this conclusion.

Just in '20 Cam looked as good as he ever has running the ball. Passing wise, not good, but he had no TE to speak of (Cam loves his TE's) and two UDFA's out wide .. no wonder why his passing stats were poor

Last season the weapons were pretty good, but the line was terrible .. the line was so poor vs. Miami it nearly broke PFF .. and Cam did have an MVP type performance vs. Washington but we still lost

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1 hour ago, Centerfield said:

When Cam starts playing like garbage behind a legitimate offensive line with formidable weapons and a full offseason, pre-season I'll come to this conclusion.

Just in '20 Cam looked as good as he ever has running the ball. Passing wise, not good, but he had no TE to speak of (Cam loves his TE's) and two UDFA's out wide .. no wonder why his passing stats were poor

Last season the weapons were pretty good, but the line was terrible .. the line was so poor vs. Miami it nearly broke PFF .. and Cam did have an MVP type performance vs. Washington but we still lost

We can love Cam Newton and not be delusional. We lost to Tyler Heinicke who looked like an elite quarterback. Sam Darnold is so terrible he lost to Daniel Jones.

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2 hours ago, Centerfield said:

When Cam starts playing like garbage behind a legitimate offensive line with formidable weapons and a full offseason, pre-season I'll come to this conclusion.

Just in '20 Cam looked as good as he ever has running the ball. Passing wise, not good, but he had no TE to speak of (Cam loves his TE's) and two UDFA's out wide .. no wonder why his passing stats were poor

Last season the weapons were pretty good, but the line was terrible .. the line was so poor vs. Miami it nearly broke PFF .. and Cam did have an MVP type performance vs. Washington but we still lost

yes when cam has a full off-season, elite weapons, excellent oline, superior coaching, iron curtain defense, elite TEs, and refs who finally give him preferable calls, the planets align and he will finally redeem himself to elite status…we get it, we’ve heard it, it just isn’t reality in the NFL

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41 minutes ago, frankw said:

We can love Cam Newton and not be delusional. We lost to Tyler Heinicke who looked like an elite quarterback. Sam Darnold is so terrible he lost to Daniel Jones.

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Tyler Henikie looked elite??

Why did the Commanders trade a load for Wentz?? When they had a elite QB on the roster..

Lmao

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7 minutes ago, onmyown said:

yes when cam has a full off-season, elite weapons, excellent oline, superior coaching, iron curtain defense, elite TEs, and refs who finally give him preferable calls, the planets align and he will finally redeem himself to elite status…we get it, we’ve heard it, it just isn’t reality in the NFL

This is a quote from Rhule in January - "..A lot of things have to align for a quarterback to play well.."

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/16/panthers-hc-matt-rhule-doesnt-commit-sam-darnold-2022/

What do you think Gardner Minshew, Baker, Jimmy G, or a QB in this draft would need to succeed .. everything you listed is the answer because the reality of the situation is winning QB's play on damn good rosters and damn good offenses outside of themselves.

EDIT: Show me high level QB play and I'll show you a lot of things aligning .. high level skill position play, high level protection. Everything has to be on point for a QB to have great numbers.

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3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Here's the main problem... he kinda sucks. We're sitting here asking ourselves if he can get back to that same baseline of suck. Yikes. I'd seriously rather just stick with Darnold. Throwing good money after bad I not the answer.

I mean, we are gonna lose anyway so seeing them strike out on a third straight QB would be funny in a morbid sort of way.

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EDIT: Show me high level QB play and I'll show you a lot of things aligning .. high level skill position play, high level protection. Everything has to be on point for a QB to have great numbers.

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2 hours ago, poundaway said:

9ers are 31-14 with JimmyG.
Shanahan is 8-28 without JimmyG.

They went to the Super Bowl and 2 NFC Championship games in the last 3 years.

Jimmy had a higher passer rating than Mahommes last year.

He's a better QB than you are a moderator, or Panthers fan.

Jimmy sucks as an NFL QB. That's why they traded the farm to draft a non-D1 QB prospect.

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