LeSean McCoy goes off on Eric Bieniemy

[kungfoodude]

24 minutes ago, Martin said:

Grabbing a woman by the neck and essentially joking about gang rape is a terrible thing to do. How the hell is that acceptable in your world. That alone should disqualify him for any coaching roles.

And yes I’ve had too much on to many occasions when I was young, but I’ve never laid my hands on a woman like that. That’s an asshole move in my book.

Lol. Where are you getting gang rape? 

Speaking of racist.....

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

Has McCoy had any other problems with coaches? I know he's been moved around a lot, and he's had to prove again and again he wasn't done yet. So much can go into this whole situation that I'm not sure anyone on the outside can get a fair read on the situation.

 

I agree about anyone on the outside not being able to get a fair read.  Regarding other coaches, he had a lot of issues with the Philly coaching staff.  Of course, Chip Kelly actually was a bad NFL coach.

[Mr. Scot]

Also, it's not exactly unheard of for a guy to talk one way when he's part of a team and another way after he leaves them.

Time frame on those comments would probably be helpful.

[Martin]

44 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Lol. Where are you getting gang rape? 

Speaking of racist.....

Someone holding a woman by the neck and joking about her being alone with five guys is clearly a rape “joke”. It has nothing to do with race.

It is a bullshit move. But sure, let’s change the topic and call it racism. Pathetic.

 

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, Martin said:

Someone holding a woman by the neck and joking about her being alone with five guys is clearly a rape “joke”. It has nothing to do with race.

It is a bullshit move. But sure, let’s change the topic and call it racism. Pathetic.

 

I think you are just making the joke mean whatever you want to fit your narrative. 

But, that isn't surprising. 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think you are just making the joke mean whatever you want to fit your narrative. 

But, that isn't surprising. 

To be fair, even something intended as a joke gets a lot more serious when you're surrounded and someone puts their hand on your neck.

At the time it happened, the story got Bieniemy banned from the campus so I'd say they took it pretty seriously.

[kungfoodude]

29 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

To be fair, even something intended as a joke gets a lot more serious when you're surrounded and someone puts their hand on your neck.

At the time it happened, the story got Bieniemy banned from the campus so I'd say they took it pretty seriously.

That's just perception versus reality. If you look at EB's rap sheet, most of it is from a specific period of time. You will also notice that none of his brushes with law enforcement are from the past 20 years.

People using his criminal history as a red flag are just grasping pretty heavily at straws. It's definitely more than that. It's something current, not some nonsense from when he was in his 20's. 

[Mr. Scot]

35 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That's just perception versus reality. If you look at EB's rap sheet, most of it is from a specific period of time. You will also notice that none of his brushes with law enforcement are from the past 20 years.

People using his criminal history as a red flag are just grasping pretty heavily at straws. It's definitely more than that. It's something current, not some nonsense from when he was in his 20's. 

There's definitely something current, and that's what McCoy is hinting at.

The record could still be an issue for some though. I'd say it might be a combination of the two.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

There's definitely something current, and that's what McCoy is hinting at.

The record could still be an issue for some though. I'd say it might be a combination of the two.

If a 20+ year old record or largely minor legal flags are an issue, probably not a place you would want to work anyway. 

I would put more into perhaps some personality flaws perhaps being the reasons. Or maybe he just isn't head coach material. Many an effective coordinator or assistant wasn't a capable head coach.

It's an interesting case, though. 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Or maybe he just isn't head coach material.

It's this. Nothing more. Nothing less. Just because you're on a coaching staff in the NFL doesn't mean you should be a HC at some point.

[KSpan]

6 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Has McCoy had any other problems with coaches? I know he's been moved around a lot, and he's had to prove again and again he wasn't done yet. So much can go into this whole situation that I'm not sure anyone on the outside can get a fair read on the situation.

 

McCoy spent 6 years in Philly then 4 in Buffalo before becoming a rental for KC and TB as players often do in their later years. Not sure I'd put him in the 'been moved around a lot' category.

Also not saying that he for sure isn't just stirring the pot at this point, but he doesn't seem an Antonio Brown-type malcontent.

[Car123]

Lots of “asshole” assistants have been hired as head coach.

[Clicheking]

Shady was washed by the time he got to K.C....he sounds like a disgruntle ex

[Khyber53]

15 hours ago, KSpan said:

McCoy spent 6 years in Philly then 4 in Buffalo before becoming a rental for KC and TB as players often do in their later years. Not sure I'd put him in the 'been moved around a lot' category.

Also not saying that he for sure isn't just stirring the pot at this point, but he doesn't seem an Antonio Brown-type malcontent.

Fair point. Like I said, not sure what to make of it because whatever the dustup is, it happens behind closed doors. Bienemy is a heck of a coordinator, but there's something that keeps him from getting the HC gig.

I just don't know. I always find myself hoping everyone is a good guy, but I know it is rarely the case.