Baker Mayfield is a Carolina Panther

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Jackie Lee said:

Plus if we extend Baker off one year of play we just went through this whole "rebuild" without ever getting to Fitts philosophy of drafting a cheap QB to build around for a 4-5 year window. If we have no intentions of extending him it's also a waste of time, unless it shows Tepper that Rhule is the problem, not the 6 qb's he's trotted out on the field. 

 

Like I said, this is worst case scenario, we are going to extend this jackass based on average play

 

Seems like just yesterday Fitt was bragging about scouting wilson, drafting him and then turning him loose into a franchise qb.

[rippadonn]

Getting worse. Not better.

Edited July 6, 2022 by rippadonn

[rebelrouser]

11 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

YOUR biggest complaint is that we got better.  You are concerned we might extend Baker for having a good year.  My God you are just complaining and contradicting yourself while doing so.  Did we not get better?  Then Baker will be a FA next year and only cost us a late round pick. 

Did we? How much better? A game? 

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Again, I worry about our lack of foresight. We only went Iky and FA OL wild because we took two years to come up with the worst OL there was. Your other post about the 2018 draft is cringeworthy.

I understand Mayfield is an improvement but we are on QB4 in 3 years who have been told by other organizations that they aren’t starter worthy. If we aren’t prioritizing our future QB situation, that’s another gigantic red flag because no one aside from us is thinking that 5-12 Carolina plus Mayfield is a legit playoff team.

I think the main priority right now is to save Matt Rhule's ass.

(at least according to Matt Rhule)

[rippadonn]

A fool and his money continue to part and part and part.

[KSpan]

I'm pretty neutral on this whole thing, but not a huge gap between those two and some other pretty big names if just talking about interceptions in a 4-year window.

Edited July 6, 2022 by KSpan

[Jackie Lee]

For context:

Baker 92-56 TD/INT

Sam   54-52 TD/INT

 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Cam Lawter said:

It's pretty easy.

Baker Mayfield makes watching Panther Football bearable again. If Darnold was the starter this year, the panthers stadium would be a ghost town and if anyone did show up, would be just to boo him.  Best case scenario, Mayfield plays lights out and we found a great quarterback. Worst Case: He is here for 1 year that cost 5 million dollars. 

So many crybabies complaining that they actually get to watch a competent football team this season for peanuts is laughable. Mayfield, McCafferey, new improvised O-line, along with our WR's, I am hype for this season!! 

6-12-6-6  Yearly wins for baker.  Thats bearable to you? 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think the main priority right now is to save Matt Rhule's ass.

(at least according to Matt Rhule)

Which is my argument all along, it shouldnt have gotten to this point where we are fuging trading for Baker even after the Darnold and teddy disasters.  It was a fuged plan from the jump and keeps getting fuged as we go forward. 

[shaqattaq]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

fair enough

 

6-12-6-6

I assume that's his wins per season. To be fair... the question only asked about 2020, and I doubt he accomplishes that former glory. I simply say that if he plays like a starter, he should get paid as a starter. It's up to him whether he does that this season.

[poundaway]

Some interesting takes on Twitter.

We traded more to trade up for Corral than we did for Baker.

 

 

[ForJimmy]

9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

We got marginally better compared to sam fuging darnold however its in the short term.  This doesnt do jack poo in regards to our long term goal and team building.   So what the fuging point is having Baker on a one year deal if we are going to let him walk?  This doesnt make sense but then again I am arguing with a dude that defend signing teddy and trading for Darnold. 

 

Baker is not a franchise qb and there are now 4 years worth of data to prove it.

I defended Teddy and Darnold?  I thought Teddy was a stop gap QB and wanted us to draft Fields even with Darnold.  Mr Scot and I argued about Fields vs Slater (he wanted Slater).  I didn't trust Darnold and wanted us to still draft Fields even after the trade.  You just want to complain over a low risk trade.  You were just posting about how difficult it will be is Baker beats out his 2020 season?  If he does that we are not "marginally" better.  I'm not as high on Baker as I am how little we have up to acquire him. If the worst thing we did this offseason is acquire a mid-level starting QB for $5 million dollars and a conditional 5th, then we had a decent offseason.  

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, stbugs said:

A rookie QB looking competent is one way to do that without making the playoffs. If Corral looks decent even in losses and the OL looks like it’s coming together, that would check our biggest boxes this year even if we didn’t go to the playoffs. Mayfield, as I mentioned above, means playoffs or fired.

Didn't say it was a good plan...

Either way, I don't think Rhule has a lot of faith in rookie QBs. His comments about Fields last year were a clue to that.

Par for the course, it's a checkers move in a chess game.

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

A rookie QB looking competent is one way to do that without making the playoffs. If Corral looks decent even in losses and the OL looks like it’s coming together, that would check our biggest boxes this year even if we didn’t go to the playoffs. Mayfield, as I mentioned above, means playoffs or fired.

bingo