The most key addition may be McAdoo.

[ColumbusCounty]

3 hours ago, Jared Patterson said:

Exactly. Thats why we need to see what we have in him before the loaded 2023 QB draft. Its the smart thing to do, but not what we will do. We will likely play Mayfield. Get 8-9 wins, barely miss the playoffs and be in no mans land again next year. We already know what Sam and Baker are. Its pointless to start either. Neither are franchise guys. 

Sam we know but Baker (when healthy) is a bit of a wildcard. He's basically a stronger version of Sam...head and shoulders. He dosen't panic nearly as much, and his field vision and ability to read the defense is superior imo. 2021 injured Baker is even an upgrade to Darnold. Now if 2020 Baker hits our field, we'll be really fuggin hard to beat. We still have to prepare for the worst though. 

Question is if Baker, Sam, and Corral are our starting QBs in that order on the depth chart when do you see Rhule throwing in Corral? 

With the added playoff teams, if we end up with 7-8 wins we could still be in the wildcard discussion by end of the season. 

I don't see Rhule playing Corral if Baker  has us in that position. I think it's truly a redshirt season for Corral unless one of the four occur: 

A. He dominates training camp and preseason by a country mile. Even then I dont have faith in Rhule to make the right call. 

B. Injuries forcing the hand 

C. We are trash and he's the last resort.

D. Put him in when we're mathematically eliminated(but then do you have a large enough sample size to judge by this point)

Lol our coaching staff didnt even have enough sense to start Christensen and Brown when it was beyond obvious to everyone.  They waited until the point they couldn't properly evaluate the talent and then questioned the late response later. 

As for QB play, a healthy and motivated Baker playing for a contract is going to be hard to beat in camp. AND we're basically paying another guy 19 million to be a backup. That's crazy. 

We're just in a bad QB spot. Hypothetically, Baker could suprise and get us 10-11 wins then decline to resign here lol. 

Sam could get us to the NFC championship game and I'd still be hesitant to resign him.

I think Corral might be the answer but he'll need time to get fully acclimated. Which is not good when you have an overactive coach and impatient owner. 

I just hope we dont get stuck with Rhule for three more seasons starting yet another trio of different QBs each yr. 

[Jared Patterson]

LOLOLOL why do we keep saying Baker was soooo injured last year??? He had a "slightly" torn labrum on his non throwing shoulder. It would hardly effect him at all, but a little bit of pain.... you know how many players play through that and get the minor surgery at the end of the year? Heck my best friend in high school did and he hardly noticed it.... plus it was Bakers NON throwing shoulder. Sure its not fun to play with, but its not that bad at all and hardly effected his throwing. 

[poundaway]

53 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

LOLOLOL why do we keep saying Baker was soooo injured last year??? He had a "slightly" torn labrum on his non throwing shoulder. It would hardly effect him at all, but a little bit of pain.... you know how many players play through that and get the minor surgery at the end of the year? Heck my best friend in high school did and he hardly noticed it.... plus it was Bakers NON throwing shoulder. Sure its not fun to play with, but its not that bad at all and hardly effected his throwing. 

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2021/10/21/baker-mayfield-injury-update-broken-humerus-torn-shoulder-labrum/
The speculation about the severity of Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield’s injured shoulder just amped up to another level. FOX Sports’ Jay Glazer reports that Mayfield has a fractured humerus bone in his left arm in addition to the torn labrum on the left (non-throwing) shoulder.

Notes: Baker Mayfield day to day with knee bruise and further damage ruled out
https://www.brownszone.com/2021/11/15/notes-baker-mayfield-day-to-day-with-knee-bruise-and-further-damage-ruled-out/

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/11/22/baker-mayfield-doesnt-care-that-fans-boo-him
Mayfield's down year can be attributed to the growling list of injuries he continues to play through that include a torn labrum in his shoulder, bone bruise on his knee and a bruised heel. 

 

And still he had 8 more touchdowns than Sam.  How many games did we lose by one score?

[TheCasillas]

1 hour ago, Jared Patterson said:

LOLOLOL why do we keep saying Baker was soooo injured last year??? He had a "slightly" torn labrum on his non throwing shoulder. It would hardly effect him at all, but a little bit of pain.... you know how many players play through that and get the minor surgery at the end of the year? Heck my best friend in high school did and he hardly noticed it.... plus it was Bakers NON throwing shoulder. Sure its not fun to play with, but its not that bad at all and hardly effected his throwing. 

[Jared Patterson]

53 minutes ago, poundaway said:

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2021/10/21/baker-mayfield-injury-update-broken-humerus-torn-shoulder-labrum/
The speculation about the severity of Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield’s injured shoulder just amped up to another level. FOX Sports’ Jay Glazer reports that Mayfield has a fractured humerus bone in his left arm in addition to the torn labrum on the left (non-throwing) shoulder.

Notes: Baker Mayfield day to day with knee bruise and further damage ruled out
https://www.brownszone.com/2021/11/15/notes-baker-mayfield-day-to-day-with-knee-bruise-and-further-damage-ruled-out/

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/11/22/baker-mayfield-doesnt-care-that-fans-boo-him
Mayfield's down year can be attributed to the growling list of injuries he continues to play through that include a torn labrum in his shoulder, bone bruise on his knee and a bruised heel. 

 

And still he had 8 more touchdowns than Sam.  How many games did we lose by one score?

Soft

[Jared Patterson]

50 minutes ago, Pakmeng said:

You clearly haven't paid close attention to any of the explanations of how it affected his throwing. A little bit of effort om your part would prevent many of your uninformed stances 

Articles like this aren't hard to find but it requires you to try.

Im not even a big Baker fan but don't be so boastful of your ignorance 

https://www.sportscasting.com/baker-mayfields-shoulder-injury-was-far-more-serious-than-anyone-realized-according-to-case-keenum/

Soft

[Jared Patterson]

Just now, Jared Patterson said:

Soft

 

51 minutes ago, Pakmeng said:

You clearly haven't paid close attention to any of the explanations of how it affected his throwing. A little bit of effort om your part would prevent many of your uninformed stances 

Articles like this aren't hard to find but it requires you to try.

Im not even a big Baker fan but don't be so boastful of your ignorance 

https://www.sportscasting.com/baker-mayfields-shoulder-injury-was-far-more-serious-than-anyone-realized-according-to-case-keenum/

My bad I forgot the bruises ....

[Jared Patterson]

55 minutes ago, poundaway said:

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2021/10/21/baker-mayfield-injury-update-broken-humerus-torn-shoulder-labrum/
The speculation about the severity of Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield’s injured shoulder just amped up to another level. FOX Sports’ Jay Glazer reports that Mayfield has a fractured humerus bone in his left arm in addition to the torn labrum on the left (non-throwing) shoulder.

Notes: Baker Mayfield day to day with knee bruise and further damage ruled out
https://www.brownszone.com/2021/11/15/notes-baker-mayfield-day-to-day-with-knee-bruise-and-further-damage-ruled-out/

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/11/22/baker-mayfield-doesnt-care-that-fans-boo-him
Mayfield's down year can be attributed to the growling list of injuries he continues to play through that include a torn labrum in his shoulder, bone bruise on his knee and a bruised heel. 

 

And still he had 8 more touchdowns than Sam.  How many games did we lose by one score?

Not saying Sam is any good. They both suck. Its a clown show

[Jared Patterson]

55 minutes ago, Pakmeng said:

You clearly haven't paid close attention to any of the explanations of how it affected his throwing. A little bit of effort om your part would prevent many of your uninformed stances 

Articles like this aren't hard to find but it requires you to try.

Im not even a big Baker fan but don't be so boastful of your ignorance 

https://www.sportscasting.com/baker-mayfields-shoulder-injury-was-far-more-serious-than-anyone-realized-according-to-case-keenum/

And, yes you are a HUGE Baker fan or you wouldn't have commented his excuses. 

Edited July 18, 2022 by Jared Patterson

[Jon Snow]

I'm not expecting much from the guy. Although it couldn't possibly be much worse than the last guy.

[Jackie Lee]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

I'm not expecting much from the guy. Although it couldn't possibly be much worse than the last guy.

1 deep pass attempt per game would be an improvement over the last guy. If I see another 8 yard comeback route on 3rd and 10....

[Soul Rebel]

2 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

[kungfoodude]

11 hours ago, top dawg said:

I took liberty with your post, and showed you how easily you could be speaking of Baker Mayfield.

Mayfield's attitude has been cited as a reason the Browns axed him. McAdoo's firing had reasons beyond actual football reasons as well.

If you can give Mayfield grace who was effectively fired from his QB1 job by the Browns, then you can give McAdoo grace for being fired as the HC from the Giants. He is no less of a potential successful OC of the Panthers than Mayfield is a potential successful QB of the Panthers.

This is stretching towards mental illness, TBQH.

How you felt the need to make this about Baker Mayfield just shows how much space he has in your head at the moment.

 

[kungfoodude]

9 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Mackin' Big Ben was getting paid to not work...

...your "red flag" nonsense is the epitome of #FakeNews .

Literally everything you say is Fake News. 

You are a walking fact free zone.