For contrast, just how bad is our OL STILL?

[philit99]

Question is how many times did the giants blitz? PFF grades per individual, so to get a better picture how many times did the giants send 5 or more? That is where the pressure is coming from. Hum, whose job is it to slide protection? Hum, interesting .

[Mr. Scot]

Hate to say it, but you also have to remember that the Giants didn't have their prize rookie or one of their other best pass rushers out there yesterday.

[CarolinaLivin]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hate to say it, but you also have to remember that the Giants didn't have their prize rookie or one of their other best pass rushers out there yesterday.

They were missing a OT and a bit of depth at Corner (at least 3 out) as well

Edited September 19, 2022 by CarolinaLivin

[countryboi]

I think the line is pretty decent, the problem is instead of gelling they were competing for positions

[pantherj]

At this point I would swap Brady and Icky. Icky just doesn't have the quickness and precision to block quick DEs. He's too sloppy and easy for a DE to set up. Brady could handle the LT position better because he's faster and more precise, and Icky could provide a boost of power at LG. Icky is on the tall side for LG, but I think he could do it. Icky would help our really useless run plays where we use double team blocks that end up getting split or go nowhere. Icky would 100% change that.

Pat lacks the power we need in the running game, but he's out there due to an injury. That's fine. Top quality backup center.

We will need an upgrade for Corbett in the 2023 draft as he is not powerful enough in the run game.

I'm pleased with Moton. He's funny to watch because he's perfected his craft, but he's still pretty slow.

 

[pantherj]

Icky will be a constant problem with pass blocking all season. We're just going o have to live with it as we spend a top 10 pick on him and moving him to LG would be an admission of failure.

Edited September 19, 2022 by pantherj

[pantherj]

The ultimate problem with the offense is not pass blocking but rather Baker Mayfield. He's clearly a bottom tier QB and he's awful in the pocket, and mediocre running to the right. The Giants knew he'd run the right and had a spy waiting for him. It's easy to flush Baker out even when he should stay put.

Edited September 19, 2022 by pantherj

[AU-panther]

51 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

It's implied if the entire interior is Top 5 at their positions, or whatever that was.

no its not.  

That total score is a product of both run blocking and pass blocking and it's very possible they have all given up at least one pressure and still be ranked that high.  

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

The problem I always have with OL grades is that they tend to look at individual performances.

As our old buddy Geoff Schwartz pointed out, it's their performance as a unit that really matters.

and our unit spent the whole of training camp in some sham competition when they should have been gelling with each other and baker (who shouldn't have been part of some sham QB competition either).

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

and our unit spent the whole of training camp in some sham competition when they should have been gelling with each other and baker (who shouldn't have been part of some sham QB competition either).

Pretty much...

[davos]

The Giants weren't getting any crazy type of pressure, we just looked all spastic and went nowhere on offense against a rather below-average/league bottom defense.

With Thib out, they had Lawrence, Williams, but their defense is a bunch of JAGs and honest, I don't recognize any of their secondary players.

There's no excuse for 129 passing yards and below 50% completion against that Giants D.  Awful playcalling by McAdoo.  Just awful.