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Baker through 2 games

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19 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

Saw this tweet earlier.  Wasn't gonna make a thread on it, but this seems like an appropriate place to drop it.

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Cam Newton can do better than this and give a team a better chance at winning a game at the end. Neither are going to win you a SB, but why must we keep downgrading the QB position. It hasn't been this bad since going from Beuerlein to Lewis to Weinke. Makes me wish we had a Pickles situation where we go from Delhomme to Pickles to Newton.

Newton to Allen to Bridgewater to Darnold to Baker is half a decade of missing on QBs

There are 3 QBs that would perform like Delhomme and 1 QB that is sitting out there available like Kurt Warner. Trade for them or sign the best of the 4 off the street.

These front offices keep thinking these college game QBs can transition to the NFL with success, and they are dead wrong.

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On 9/21/2022 at 11:03 AM, t96 said:

Cam has been washed for several years now dude. It's absolutely brutal but Rivera and Shula ran him into the ground and got his shoulder destroyed

This has been a false ass narrative. There’s a difference between being washed and not knowing the playbook. I watched every game he played in NE and he wasn’t washed. Keep in mind the very next year with Mac Jones 5 of the top 6 pass catchers for Mac wasn’t even  on the roster for Cam. Go back and watch Cam in the preseason with New England, he was throwing darts. Then he came here and didn’t know the plays. But hey it’s nothing new for the black QB. 

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3 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

This has been a false ass narrative. There’s a difference between being washed and not knowing the playbook. I watched every game he played in NE and he wasn’t washed. Keep in mind the very next year with Mac Jones 5 of the top 6 pass catchers for Mac wasn’t even  on the roster for Cam. Go back and watch Cam in the preseason with New England, he was throwing darts. Then he came here and didn’t know the plays. But hey it’s nothing new for the black QB. 

You are blinded by your bias. He can occasionally throw darts but far too often for an NFL QB he has throws that have nothing on them. His shoulder is completely done. He would be wise to look for a Taysom Hill type role as he can still excel in that role, but his days as a starting QB are 100% done. 

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1 minute ago, t96 said:

You are blinded by your bias. He can occasionally throw darts but far too often for an NFL QB he has throws that have nothing on them. His shoulder is completely done. He would be wise to look for a Taysom Hill type role as he can still excel in that role, but his days as a starting QB are 100% done. 

he was skipping passes like nobodys business in NE and then last year it was painfully obvious he is shot

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On 9/21/2022 at 9:59 AM, MasterAwesome said:

Saw this tweet earlier.  Wasn't gonna make a thread on it, but this seems like an appropriate place to drop it.

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Isn't Baker's completion percentage like 55%? Doing math here, but that tells me he's actually playing ok all things considered. He's facing stupid rush and we run the ball with our highly paid RB like 10 times a game. 

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3 hours ago, lightsout said:

 

Isn't Baker's completion percentage like 55%? Doing math here, but that tells me he's actually playing ok all things considered. He's facing stupid rush and we run the ball with our highly paid RB like 10 times a game. 

I'm not as down on Mayfield as others, in general, having watched him play since he entered the league, and with being in this new (unideal) situation, however,  55% is not good. 

Drops haven't helped, route and timing issues and communications (on QB or WR or both) aren't helping, but Mayfield is not throwing accurately, and he needs to fix it. 

He was one of the more accurate passers in college, and opened 2021 with the highest % in the league, so he's more than capable of bringing that back up above 60, and ideally higher. 

But, we don't need to excuse 55% passing. Also, we should not expect to see that number continue. He'll get more accurate as the season goes along, assuming he's not benched or killed behind the OL's poor unit play (but strong individual play). 

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4 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

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Does Dan describe the situations on these downs?

If its 3rd and Long it doesnt matter where the RB should be lining up, its going to be a pass period. Now if these "tells" are happening on first and second down consistently, then it should be something addressed. If Baker is in Shotgun on 1st or 2nd Down, what Retard wouldnt know its probably a read option play?

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