Fit and Morgan: SHOULD they stay?

[Paa Langfart]

43 minutes ago, Growl said:

just clean house

this.  Just make a clean sweep of it.  Wish we could start with a new owner as well.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

I think you have an AGM with some experience that is close to the organization who came from the Buffalo tree.  Throw in the hard worker and obvious knowledge of the game and he is a pretty good candidate.  I think we also have some PTSD from out last AGM that left (Beane).  I'm not saying I'm die hard for Morgan, but I think he could be a good candidate.

What you say makes sense.

I guess I could google some articles about Beanes time here in Charlotte but there were tangible reasons he was well liked.  There were receipts to his work and that was why people were pissed when he left. 

[Mr. Scot]

21 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Beane hired him on as Director of Player Personnel in 2018 in Buffalo for 3 years before we signed him as an Assistant in 2021.  If he learned anything from Beane about building a roster he is worth it, plus there is obvious Panthers familiarity.  

That's not where he got his start.

Look again.

While you're at it, look up who he credits for teaching him how to scout players.

Edited October 3, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[rippadonn]

If you told me in 2003 that Dan Morgan would go on to become GM of the very Panthers franchise he fought for valiantly would have made me a very proud homer.

2022 me would be cool with this too.

[therealmjl]

I’d keep Morgan around but tell Fitt to kick rocks

[trueblade]

53 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Fire Fitt and promote Morgan to GM. 

In that scenario, there's a very strong chance Morgan would hire Ken Dorsey as HC.

[Wundrbread33]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He overpaid for Darnold in spades, and as it stands today you could argue the same for Baker.  Dude is absolutely horrible and is showing why he was so "cheap" and literally no other team wanted him.

Making mistakes at QB makes you look horrible, but it doesn’t make it true that you are.

 

Also you are assuming who made the decisions. We just don’t know for sure.

 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

Making mistakes at QB makes you look horrible, but it doesn’t make it true that you are.

 

Also you are assuming who made the decisions. We just don’t know for sure.

 

We know for a fact he handled the trade compensation for both.  

[rippadonn]

Group thinking isn't leading.

[Monrowed]

46 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Did no one else notice how they had him off to the side not even paying attention to him during the draft? 

I believe that Dan is the Pro Personnel Assistant GM.

Edited October 3, 2022 by Monrowed

[Wundrbread33]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

We know for a fact he handled the trade compensation for both.  

Sam overpay (everyone thought JeTs SuCk SaM mAyBe OkAy…but our coaching sucks too). 

 

Baker not an overpay.

 

CJ, eye of the beholder.

 

Most importantly though; you hold the premise that our roster is weak. I don’t hold that premise. I know this from prior discussions with you.

Therefore we naturally would have differing opinions on a GM/AGM, QB issues aside. 
 

We both agree our QB’s suck. You see garbage QB’s with a roster you don’t like. I see garbage QB’s with a roster I do like (not implying it’s perfect though).

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

Sam overpay (everyone thought JeTs SuCk SaM mAyBe OkAy…but our coaching sucks too). 

 

Baker not an overpay.

 

CJ, eye of the beholder.

 

Most importantly though; you hold the premise that our roster is weak. I don’t hold that premise. I know this from prior discussions with you.

Therefore we naturally would have differing opinions on a GM/AGM, QB issues aside. 
 

We both agree our QB’s suck. You see garbage QB’s with a roster you don’t like. I see garbage QB’s with a roster I do like (not implying it’s perfect though).

He is literally the worst qb in the nfl, its an absolute overpay especially considering nobody else wanted him and they were going to have to cut him

 

As to the roster I feel its mid to bottom in the nfl.  We need either 1 kick ass draft or 2 average to build some nice depth.

 

What is our strongest position group and then where does that group rank in the nfl?  Then do our 2nd strongest and I think you will see why i think our roster isnt as strong as some of you think

Edited October 3, 2022 by mrcompletely11

[CRA]

I think the GM should go with Rhule.   I think In large part they should always come and go together.  Tepper fugged up keeping Marty.   Right the ship.   
 

Fit’s hand was in Sam, the 5th year option, Robbie extension, Baker and all the real messes.  The real clusterfug started once Fit and Rhule got paired.  He gets a pass on it all from a lot. 

[ForJimmy]

22 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's not where he got his start.

Look again.

While you're at it, look up who he credits for teaching him how to scout players.

Who Beane?  He credits Hurney for his success....  So we kept Hurney and the Bills took our well liked AGM.  Hopefully we can learn from a little history.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2017/05/15/brandon-beane-credits-former-panthers-gm-marty-hurney-for-success/