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2023 QB watch list Herdon Hooker

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2 minutes ago, trueblade said:

I'll take nine to ten years of good QB play and worry about trying to find the next one once he says he's thinking of hanging it up. 

I really like everything about his game i've seen. Great footwork, comfortable in the pocket, looks like he can make reads, can run it if needed but doesn't default to that like some other guys. I can't come up with a knock besides his age which still gives you an 8-10 year window if he does work out

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10 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

I really like everything about his game i've seen. Great footwork, comfortable in the pocket, looks like he can make reads, can run it if needed but doesn't default to that like some other guys. I can't come up with a knock besides his age which still gives you an 8-10 year window if he does work out

8-10 years is the ceiling.  Many QBs go well past 35 if they play well.  Brady, Brees and Rodgers just to name a few.  Like someone mentioned before.  I'd take 8-10 years of good QB play.  Hell right now I'd take 5 good years. 

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7 minutes ago, Panther53521 said:

a lot of help reading the defense

Explain this?  Who's giving him help reading the defense.  Who's your choice at QB?  Usually when someone comes up with a statement like this, they are grasping for things to find wrong with a player so they can have the QB they want. 

I watched most of the game.  Hooker wore out a top 3 team.  52 points against a team that is expected to compete for a National Title.  It's not like he managed the game.  He moved them roughly 40 yards into FG range is 16 seconds.

Please continue to nitpick.

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49 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Explain this?  Who's giving him help reading the defense.  Who's your choice at QB?  Usually when someone comes up with a statement like this, they are grasping for things to find wrong with a player so they can have the QB they want. 

I watched most of the game.  Hooker wore out a top 3 team.  52 points against a team that is expected to compete for a National Title.  It's not like he managed the game.  He moved them roughly 40 yards into FG range is 16 seconds.

Please continue to nitpick.

The WR’s are placed wide, outside the numbers to limit numbers in the box. Easier to read the defense and a lot of open ground if you make it past the DL. 

The WR are harder to double when outside the numbers. I think all the open ground makes it easier on the WR to break into the open ground just outside the TE

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3 minutes ago, Panther53521 said:

The WR’s are placed wide, outside the numbers to limit numbers in the box. Easier to read the defense and a lot of open ground if you make it past the DL. 

The WR are harder to double when outside the numbers. I think all the open ground makes it easier on the WR to break into the open ground just outside the TE

Did you ever consider this might be the OCs call because of film study?  If your opinion is this, is the only way to help a QB why doesn't everyone use it?  

With this type of offense, it also opens up to relying on your offensive line to protect you.  Meaning the QB has to have the discipline to stand up in the pocket and make the throws.  The QB has to know the routes and coverage and who is most likely to be in single coverage.  There probably is more reading to do than a traditional offense.

It's a weak argument but, like I said earlier I think you have a preferred QB and don't want anyone to screw it up so you nitpick his skills.  

He may not be a perfect QB but IMO his performance yesterday opened a lot of eyes and he'll start to be in the conversation of a 1st round QB. 

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I think people are focusing on the wrong thing when talking about his age. It's less about the possible length of his career, and more about how much more he can improve from where he is. He's older, which could mean he is closer to his ceiling than someone younger would be.

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