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the panthers are not just one player away from being a great team

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people keep saying this as if jake is the only problem on the team. Jake blows but the Panthers are terribly flawed to the core and even if they had peyton manning or tom brady they'd still need a number 2 receiver, 2 starting defensive tackles, a special teams coach, an entirely new special teams, and depth across the board. they're probably two draft away from having all of that.

this isn't just one problem

signing mike vick and bill cowher won't send them to a super bowl

stop being stupid babies and over simplifying a very complicated problem

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I agree that Jake isn't the only flaw on this team. However, if you are a coach and looking at this team as it stands there is a lot there to begin with. Most people will tell you that in building a team you start with the lines then move out. On offense there good on defense not so much but there are peices there. LB and Secondary has a good core. Same with the RB and TE.

Getting a new QB alone will not fix all of the problems, as evidenced in Chicago. But the cupard isn't bare either the way it was in KC or St. Louis.

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well most SB teams are flawed and have chaulked up several losses before the big game....so you could still make the arguement they could only be a QB away from it. A good QB and this team would have bad this playoffs this year......probably would have made it w/ a very average one also.

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people keep saying this as if jake is the only problem on the team. Jake blows but the Panthers are terribly flawed to the core and even if they had peyton manning or tom brady they'd still need a number 2 receiver, 2 starting defensive tackles, a special teams coach, an entirely new special teams, and depth across the board. they're probably two draft away from having all of that.

this isn't just one problem

signing mike vick and bill cowher won't send them to a super bowl

stop being stupid babies and over simplifying a very complicated problem

Sure there are other holes, almost every team has them but Jake IS on a different level resulting in the biggest issue and problem this season. I have been a supporter all the way up through the beginning of this year. The problem is unfortunately this team would have at least 3 or 4 more wins if they just had a decent QB this year. Jake has been brutal, underthrowing, overthowing, missing recievers left and right, fumbline, throwing picks, etc. With just better QB play the panthers beat Buffalo, Miami, Jets, probably the Cowboys. They are an 8-3 or 7-4 team right now.

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it is a myth about a super bowl caliber team. all teams that make it to the playoffs are super bowl caliber. look at the cardinals. heck look at the 2003 panthers. its about making it to the playoffs and giving yourself a chance. if you can consistently make it to the playoffs you give yourself more opportunities at the superbowl which is the ultimate goal. there is no perfect team with no flaws destined for the superbowl. all teams have flaws. the good teams know how to cover their weaknesses.

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people keep saying this as if jake is the only problem on the team. Jake blows but the Panthers are terribly flawed to the core and even if they had peyton manning or tom brady they'd still need a number 2 receiver, 2 starting defensive tackles, a special teams coach, an entirely new special teams, and depth across the board. they're probably two draft away from having all of that.

this isn't just one problem

signing mike vick and bill cowher won't send them to a super bowl

stop being stupid babies and over simplifying a very complicated problem

a agree, somewhat - plugging in a good QB won't make us dominant. There's too many holes elsewhere. but that doesn't mean we wouldn't be competitive, VERY good, playoff-caliber. sans injuries, we would - with a quarterback better than '08 jake, which is not hard to find - just as good or better than our 12-4 team fielded last year.

07 Patriots? certainly not... we could only dream of being that dominant, and there's no way to get all the pieces together in one year to put together that kind of talent. but i don't think it's unreasonable to expect that a GOOD quarterback, a dependable possession #2 WR, and a little bit of depth at DT and OT, in addition to our current strengths, would make us a very, very, very good football team.

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a few things that are holding us back...

GM

HC

OC

STs coach

QB

WR

OL depth

DT

DE

SLB

DB depth

KR

PR

PR coverage

KR coverage

This is the list of a team thats rebuilding..something we are not.Yes we need some upgrades.But this teams has talent and with a few players this is a SB caliber team.

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