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Official Bucs at Panthers GameDay Thread

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

We were always going to win a couple more.  I still think we are top 5.  But the teams ahead of us are all qb hungry as well

 

the top 3 are gone and they we have to start reaching

Nah just grab Hooker, McCall, Hall, or McKee in the 2nd or trade back and draft one. UCLA QB looks good too. I think one if the big 3 will fall to us though. 

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25 minutes ago, 33inNC said:

I, for one, would love to see CMC dominate and the 49ers win, further proving Fhule's failure at all levels.

Why would we want that? Niners losing only increases the value of the picks we just got from them. Who gives a poo about Rhule... dude is getting paid handsomely to do nothing the next couple years. 

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8 minutes ago, AlphabetsEnd said:

It does help, but the bigger issue that's been getting overlooked all season is the defense letting long drives happen, often out of halftime or following offensive scores. 

Today, the Bucs are having quick 3 and outs and add to that the run game has been working better and the offense is staying on the field more. 

I get what you are saying, and I agree the D played a solid game today.  Especially in the third qtr.   But Tampa actually won the time of possession battle.  And if I am counting right, only had one three and out, along with one five and out to start the game.  But the D was fresh enough at the end to have a chance.  And that was huge.

But Tampa Bay's offense being terrible played a big role as well.  

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Just now, ForJimmy said:

Nah just grab Hooker, McCall, Hall, or McKee in the 2nd or trade back and draft one. UCLA QB looks good too. I think one if the big 3 will fall to us though. 

We are picking a qb in the first.   That’s locked in stone.  I doubt we have the stones to trade back and pick one.  We probably would just take the next guy on our ranking regardless of where we are.  

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2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Why would we want that? Niners losing only increases the value of the picks we just got from them. Who gives a poo about Rhule... dude is getting paid handsomely to do nothing the next couple years. 

Good point, my anger at Fhule is still guiding me.

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Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

We are picking a qb in the first.   That’s locked in stone.  I doubt we have the stones to trade back and pick one.  We probably would just take the next guy on our ranking regardless of where we are.  

If we are picking in the top 10 and the big 3 are gone there is no need to reach. After the top 3 there is a drop off, but still a long list of talented passers. 
However, there are still a lot of games left and I think we will walk away with Stroud, Young, or Levis.

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13 minutes ago, stbugs said:

JFC, Tampa has scored 3 points. Saying we would have lost with CMC is ridiculous. This Tampa team is garbage right now. If Jarret doesn’t get a penalty, Tampa’s 0-5 after beating Winston (he threw 3 picks). They are a bad team now. We win this game easily with CMC.

All of a sudden Chubba and Foreman are gods, lol. 

Never said any such thing about Foreman or Chubba, just that having an elite RB is less valuable than most here want to believe.  Having. An elite RB is essentially inconsequential in today's NFL.  Is it cool and fun to watch?  Absolutely.  Does it matter?  Nope.  Go find me the teams with one elite/workhorse/primary RB with the offense built around that who have won a Superbowl in the last few years.  Kamara, Taylor, and Henry are probably the most dominant other RBs in the league in the last few years and not one of them have a Superbowl or even sniffed one.  So Foreman and Chubba don't have to be "gods," they just have to produce in a committee just like they did today.  And it's amazing how functional the offense looks when you're not forcing the ball to one guy all day...  bekieve it or not, as fun as it was to watch, he held us back...  and any offense that relies primarily on one RB are setting themselves up for failure in today's NFL.

And to be clear, I wasn't saying we would've lost to Tampa with CMC if he scored 4 TDs - which also was asinine in itself because name the last time he scored 4 TDs.  The post I responded to also claimed he would score 4 TDs on all of those runs today, which is also hard to believe.  But regardless, I was saying because of the style of the offense we ran with CMC, we probably a) wouldn't have scored 4 TDs with him scoring all 4 of them as the other poster claimed and b) we wouldn't have won because the offense had no balance or sense of distribution. 

 

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