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Trevor Lawrence proves going #1 doesn't mean much

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They called him a "generational talent" at QB. All the pundits said he was a "no miss" pick.

I just see an average QB that really hasn't done much so far in the league. Going #1 is still a crap shoot.

Panthers need to play to win and not put hopes on getting that "no miss" QB at #1.

Let the chips fall where they may. Get a quality HC and use the picks and FA to fill out the team. 

They can find a good QB after the top two. Nothing is a sure thing.

 

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Just now, Krovvy said:

Every year, same argument.

Here's the same reply:

No matter what anecdotes you have it doesn't change the fact that mathematically having a higher pick gives you more of a chance to make the correct selection.

Perhaps, but just barely.  Maybe a 25% chance at picking an elite qb in the top five vs a 20% chance if your pick is 6-10.  Not enough of a difference imo to justify ripping the team apart in some kind of a front office fire sale to get a higher pick.  

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8 minutes ago, Jmac said:

They called him a "generational talent" at QB. All the pundits said he was a "no miss" pick.

I just see an average QB that really hasn't done much so far in the league. Going #1 is still a crap shoot.

Panthers need to play to win and not put hopes on getting that "no miss" QB at #1.

Let the chips fall where they may. Get a quality HC and use the picks and FA to fill out the team. 

They can find a good QB after the top two. Nothing is a sure thing.

 

And the Giants are proving you don't need a good QB to go 6-1

 

 

 

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Let's not turn this into everyone saying how right they are or were.  

Bottom line is you want to be in position to take the QB you want.  That liberty starts to fade once you're near pick 10-12ish.  

And then you can sometimes find diamonds in the rough all over, any round or selection.  But you want the ability to take who you want whether that be Stroud, Levis, Young, or Hootie & the Blowfish.  

 

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1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Perhaps, but just barely.  Maybe a 25% chance at picking an elite qb in the top five vs a 20% chance if your pick is 6-10.  Not enough of a difference imo to justify ripping the team apart in some kind of a front office fire sale to get a higher pick.  

It's like Groundhog Day every year.

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2 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Perhaps, but just barely.  Maybe a 25% chance at picking an elite qb in the top five vs a 20% chance if your pick is 6-10.  Not enough of a difference imo to justify ripping the team apart in some kind of a front office fire sale to get a higher pick.  

Those percentages are completely made up unless you can show me some data to back them up.

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15 minutes ago, Jmac said:

They called him a "generational talent" at QB. All the pundits said he was a "no miss" pick.

I just see an average QB that really hasn't done much so far in the league. Going #1 is still a crap shoot.

Panthers need to play to win and not put hopes on getting that "no miss" QB at #1.

Let the chips fall where they may. Get a quality HC and use the picks and FA to fill out the team. 

They can find a good QB after the top two. Nothing is a sure thing.

 

I mean his rookie year he went to a complete shitshow.  Urban got fired in season of year one and they had no talent. 

now he is in year 2 already in a new offense.   

they haven’t lost a game by more than a score this year with okay talent around him. He is completing 65% of his passes.  With the Eagles being the lone exception, they have had the lead in the 4th of every game. 
 

 

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