Justin Fields 61 yard rushing touchdown

[run-run-pass-punt]

I was opposed to drafting Fields - not because I didn't think he had talent (and obvious athleticism), but because sooner or later, you have to be able to win with your arm/vision/decision making at the QB position. And I didn't see that as being his strength. Of course, players can develop, and he's obviously trending upwards, but I feel like his passing potential is more a byproduct of his athleticism than a reflection of his natural skill-set as a passer. He's surely exciting to watch, and I've enjoyed seeing his play, but to be worthy of the label of "franchise" QB, you're going to face circumstances against the better teams (and in big games) where you'll need to be able to stand in the pocket, find the open man and hit the target - and do so with consistency. I don't see that in Fields, at least up until this point. I kind of hope he does blossom though, if only for the sake of Bears' fans and their perpetual struggle to find a worthy player at the position.

[AceBoogie]

On 11/6/2022 at 2:55 PM, t96 said:

who the fug cares

Me. Remember when I said not taking Fields set this franchise back a decade. Well on our way. 

[run-run-pass-punt]

5 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Typical code speak. 

What?!?

That's offensive.

[ForJimmy]

27 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Yeah on the surface it sounds odd, but you'd have to account for injured QBs and their backups who have played less games (and thrown less passes) than Fields who will kinda counteract the fact that Fields throws less passes per game, since Fields has started every game so far.  Baker is one of those - also guys like Ryan Tannehill, Cooper Rush, Zach Wilson, and Joe Flacco.  Flacco is the only one who you could maybe question due to that small sample size of 3 games (although he threw an insane 155 passes over those 3 games lol); the others have played at least 6 games.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/passing_advanced.htm

Thanks!  Wow for Jacoby.  It looks like Fields is also higher on the bad throw % as well.  He is still definitely a working progress.  

[Jackie Lee]

44 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

When you are talking about rookies/2nd years QBs you usually look at how they are trending.  He had a bad rookie year and struggled the first quarter of the season, but it looks like something is starting to click with him and he is making a bit of a jump.  It's all about context...  I don't understand why you are so against this.  Fields is playing at a higher level lately.  Has his solidified himself at THE guy?  No, but he is looking like he COULD be something special IF he keeps progressing.  

It's also a new coach, and Fields first official starting season, understandable the first 4 games were a little shaky. 

[Catsfan69]

12 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Typical code speak. 

Fields ain't it.

He'll never be Brady Mahomes Rogers.

Not even close

[Catsfan69]

1 minute ago, Pakmeng said:

Not being one of the best to ever play? Wow....he's useless

He won't be good enough to win a Superbowl with. He's not a great passer as the stats above show.

[Catsfan69]

Lol Mahomes having 2x more yards with a worse drop percentage 

[ForJimmy]

12 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

Lol Mahomes having 2x more yards with a worse drop percentage 

Mahomes is the top QB right now IMO. He also has 77% more attempts which is why we are using % and why total yards don’t hold as much weight. 

[MasterAwesome]

19 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Thanks!  Wow for Jacoby.  It looks like Fields is also higher on the bad throw % as well.  He is still definitely a working progress.  

In his defense, he also has the second highest pressure rate out of any QB which will almost definitely lead to a higher percentage of bad throws. I’d also guess a lot of those bad throws came in the earlier part of the season vs. the last few games. He’s not a finished product by any means but I don’t know how you can’t feel optimistic about him at this point.

[ForJimmy]

25 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

He won't be good enough to win a Superbowl with. He's not a great passer as the stats above show.

[AggieLean]

31 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

Fields ain't it.

He'll never be Brady Mahomes Rogers.

Not even close

 

27 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

He won't be good enough to win a Superbowl with. He's not a great passer as the stats above show.

Yet, you want to give Darnold another shot, and he’s never shown he could win a Super Bowl. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

It's too early to declare the fate of Justin Fields but the flashes he shows are undeniable.  Those flashes do include his arm, but only time will tell to see how he develops.

Edited November 14, 2022 by PNW_PantherMan

[PNW_PantherMan]

It will take 4-5 years to get a good idea of what Justin Fields will be in the NFL.  Too many times we see guys start off good but then later look bad (Baker, Kyler) or start off bad and later look good (Tua, Allen).