Justin Fields 61 yard rushing touchdown

[Catsfan69]

7 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

You said Allen wasn’t a dual threat QB. I never trusted your QB judgement again after that…

He's mobile because he has an elite arm.

Mobile > dual threat

[Growl]

2 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

The QBs I seek

Staubach

Russ

Big Ben

Manning

Warren Moon

Fouts

Young

Montana 

 

And on and on and on would all still be franchise guys today.

 

I'll take prime Russ Moon lamar and Mahomes over Cam any day of the week.

The number one measurement of a QB is arm and passing ability. Plain and simple.

Allen can throw

Cousins can throw

Russ traditionally can throw

Brady can throw 

Lamar can throw

Rogers can throw

Herbert Burrows can throw.

 

I want a guy that can dice you up.

Not some jag that can kinda get it in the vicinity. 

Fields is more vicinity than surgical 

lol your entire dumb argument is predicated on whether individual players are good or not, you’re only retroactively applying a pointless distinction on them to make it look like you’ve got deep insight despite being the worst poster here

[top dawg]

All of us knew that Fields would forever be brought up in this forum when we skipped over him. I said it in so many words around that time. Just because Rhule is gone doesn't give us that short of a memory.

Fields will always be the guy that we fuged up on if he turns out to be a legit franchise QB. He's on his way notwithstanding extremely fuged up circumstances. Just deal with it as a part of life as a Panthers fan.

[PNW_PantherMan]

Fields has had a good stretch of games, but the jury is still out.  That said, it would have been a lot more exciting to watch Fields play than any QB we had under Rhule.

[ForJimmy]

6 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Mills has played 21 games, Fields 20

 

And Fields had Mooney, Robinson, Kmet, Montgomery and Herbert. 
 

You are bragging about 3 wins lol, that just goes to show how bad both QBs are.

Yeah and for several of those “20” games Fields played he was pulled and came in for Dalton. Nagy was swapping QBs left and right last year. This is why it makes sense to compare this year where both QBs have been starters since week 1 and have been getting starter reps all year. That would however derail your whole argument, so I get why you are against it.

[Growl]

16 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

You said Allen wasn’t a dual threat QB. I never trusted your QB judgement again after that…

so like youre not smart enough to understand the formula but if player good=mobile and if player bad=dual threat

bare in mind he used to consider the two to be one in the same and the argument was “QBs that run don’t win Super Bowls” but it’s hard to prop that argument up when you’ve got Russell Wilson running for 500+ yards en route to a Lombardi blowout over pocket guy extraordinare Peyton manning

from there it morphed into this insane reclassification of dividing good players from bad players into his pointless titles

Edited November 7, 2022 by Growl

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, GoobyPls said:

No we are not, I was talking about the 2021 class in totality. 
 

The fact is 3 weeks ago Fields was far and away the worst QB in the class and 3 weeks of decent football isn’t gonna change my perspective.

  Maybe you were but you made no mention of it. Use whatever helps you out. 

[ForJimmy]

6 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

He's mobile because he has an elite arm.

Mobile > dual threat

He had to get his TDs with his legs today. 86 rushing yards and 2 rushing TDs with 0 passing TDs and 1 INT. He is about as dual threat as it gets. They incorporate QB runs all in that offense. He had 9 attempts which is more than any of his RBs.

[Catsfan69]

6 minutes ago, Growl said:

lol your entire dumb argument is predicated on whether individual players are good or not, you’re only retroactively applying a pointless distinction on them to make it look like you’ve got deep insight despite being the worst poster here

Throwing will always be the most important trait. The further down the line your QBs arm is the further from the Superbowl you get.

I've said it a million times I'll take tons of QBs over Cam that played in the league while he did if we are judging their prime vs his.

Russ Breese Ben Brady Payton Elway Allen Burrow Rivers Watson Luck Stafford Mahomes do I need to keep going?

[Jackie Lee]

9 minutes ago, Growl said:

lol your entire dumb argument is predicated on whether individual players are good or not, you’re only retroactively applying a pointless distinction on them to make it look like you’ve got deep insight despite being the worst poster here

That list is insane lol. Just a bunch of names

[mrcompletely11]

If someone on here somehow cannot see that fields is improving on a weekly basis facing some pretty long odds then those folks probably have Velcro shoe laces.  

[Catsfan69]

4 minutes ago, Growl said:

so like youre not smart enough to understand the formula but if player good=mobile and if player bad=dual threat

bare in mind he used to consider the two to be one in the same and the argument was “QBs that run don’t win Super Bowls” but it’s hard to prop that argument up when you’ve got Russell Wilson running for 500+ yards en route to a Lombardi blowout over pocket guy extraordinare Peyton manning

from there it morphed into this insane reclassification of dividing good players from bad players into his pointless titles

I never considered it one in the same.

I've always distinguished mobile from dual threat from running qbs

[Catsfan69]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

He had to get his TDs with his legs today. 86 rushing yards and 2 rushing TDs with 0 passing TDs and 1 INT. He is about as dual threat as it gets. They incorporate QB runs all in that offense. He had 9 attempts which is more than any of his RBs.

You talking about Allen?

That's why he lost. He just said he didn't play QB well enough today to win.

[Growl]

this week Josh Allen was a dual threat QB but if he plays a little better next week he can be mobile again