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MNF: Bills vs. Bengals *game suspended* - prayers for Damar Hamlin


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On 1/3/2023 at 12:07 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, calling the game a tie kinda fugs them. But playing the game tomorrow then making them both play on a very short turnaround REALLY fugs them. Calling it a tie and moving on honestly might be the best bad option here.

 

nah.  move the playoffs back a week and remove the two week period between the championship games and the SB. I think they did that 9/11 year

 

thoughts and prayers to Hamlin and all impacted, but the best solution is the game being played.  no way around that IMO

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29 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Update:

So the league has gone from "We never said that!" to "Well, somebody said it. We don't know who but SHAME ON THEM!!!" 🙄


It was obviously a ref saying it. There was no one else down there at the time with the authority to say something like that. 
 

Not a big deal. Those refs didn’t have the power to cancel the game so they probably thought they didn’t have a choice.

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14 minutes ago, Tbe said:

It was obviously a ref saying it. There was no one else down there at the time with the authority to say something like that. 

Not a big deal. Those refs didn’t have the power to cancel the game so they probably thought they didn’t have a choice.

Joe Buck has said repeatedly that the word was coming from the NFL.

Albert Breer has characterized it as the league and officials following normal protocol, which more than anything shows they didn't grasp the reality of the situation. That in and of itself is more insensitive than evil.

But the league has been trying to rewrite the story, making it one of those situations where the cover up is worse than the act itself.

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The same league that found copious amounts of evidence that exposed their budding dynasty at the time had cheated their way to multiple superbowl championships by recording other teams' practices and essentially having their entire gameplans as a result (including against us), so Goodell went to their offices, confiscated the tapes, then had his goons stomp them into pieces and bury them in an undisclosed location like they were Jimmy Hoffa? That league?

The same league that saw the tape of Ray Rice hitting his wife with a haymaker so vicious that it would hospitalize most grown men and decided he would just sit out a game or two because they were the only ones that saw it, so no harm, no foul...  until the tape leaked to the public and the outrage was justifiably so intense that all of a sudden, they decided it actually warranted a season-long suspension, him being released, and then being essentially blackballed from ever playing in the league again.  That league?

The same league that sat by quietly for years after player after player got popped for DV issues and they would just sweep it under the rug? The same league that allowed an environment to fester where Jovan Belcher could go kill the mother of his children, show up to the team facility and then blow his brains out as if there were no signs leading up to it? That league?

The same league that allowed our team to ride on our MVP QBs back with the #1 offense to the Superbowl in 2015, and then decided that Peyton Manning riding off into the sunset with a second championship was a better storyline so they rigged the game with inentionally horrible officiating and gave it to the Broncos.  Then after the game, in a moment I've never seen before or since, they have our QB, after just losing the biggest game of his life, mostly because he was never given a fair chance to compete, sit in an open corridor and do his post game interview and ask him what it feels like while they have Chris Harris from the Broncos 10 feet away from him bragging loudly about how they just shut him down...  so loud that he actually was drowning Cam out of his own presser.  Then that same league spent the next season and a half allowing teams to openly hunt Cam with blatant headshots and egregious attempts to concuss him, twist and contort him, and knock him out of games because they couldn't stop him within legal means.  And the NFL was 100% okay with that.  That league?

The same league that quietly blackballed Kaepernick for expressing his opinions about social justice, equality, equity, and police brutality - while simultaneously deciding to double down on fakeness and force teams to participate in public gestures of police support and standing for anthems seemingly in response to Kaepernick's stated issues.  That league?

The same league that sat by for decades knowing their game was causing irreversible damage to its athletes, leading many to chronic illness, debilitating conditions, brain damage, declining mental health, and even death? The same league that buried and suppressed the research linking the game to those issues?  The same league that sat on their hands while countless player after player committed suicide or harmed others after dealing with those health issues with no help from the league for years, all while the commish and his owner buddies counted their cash?  The same league that fought the players' association tooth and nail over giving many of those retired and ill-stricken vets that built their cash cow any tangible, significant benefits or help?  That league.

Oh.  Color me surprised.  Goodell has ZERO morals, ethics, or any intestinal fortitude.  The owners either.  This is simply a money-making endeavor for them, and the players are nothing more than a means to that end to them.  So you damn well better believe they tried to start that game up, regardless of what they say.  They only care about the optics after the fact.  Just like with all those other situations, Ray Rice in particular, if they can skirt by with their actions and no one calls them on it, they absolutely will do what is best for the bottom line and the bottom line only.  Hamlin to them, in that moment, was no different than a warehouse employee who had a heart attack...  they wanted him out of the way and to get on with business as usual.  They are disgusting.  Period.

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1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

The same league that found copious amounts of evidence that exposed their budding dynasty at the time had cheated their way to multiple superbowl championships by recording other teams' practices and essentially having their entire gameplans as a result (including against us), so Goodell went to their offices, confiscated the tapes, then had his goons stomp them into pieces and bury them in an undisclosed location life they were Jimmy Hoffa? That league?

The same league that saw the tape of Ray Rice hitting his wife with a haymaker so vicious that it would hospitalize most grown men and decided he would just sit out a game or two because they were the only ones that saw it, so no harm, no foul...  until the tape leaked to the public and the outrage was justifiably so intense that all of a sudden, they decided it actually warranted a season-long suspension, him being released, and then being essentially blackballed from ever playing in the league again.  That league?

The same league that sat by quietly for years after player after player got popped for DV issues and they would just sweep it under the rug? The same league that allowed an environment to fester where Jovan Belcher could go kill the mother of his children, show up to the team facility and then blow his brains out as if there were no signs leading up to it? That league?

The same league that allowed our team to ride on our MVP QBs back with the #1 offense to the Superbowl in 2015, and then decided that Peyton Manning riding off into the sunset with a second championship was a better storyline so they rigged the game with inentionally horrible officiating and gave it to the Broncos.  Then after the game, in a moment I've never seen before or since, they have our QB, after just losing the biggest game of his life, mostly because he was never given a fair chance to compete, sit in an open corridor and do his post game interview and ask him what it feels like while they have Chris Harris from the Broncos 10 feet away from him bragging loudly about how they just shut him down...  so loud that he actually was drowning Cam out of his own presser.  Then that same league spent the next season and a half allowing teams to openly hunt Cam with blatant headshots and egregious attempts to concuss him, twist and contort him, and knock him out of games because they couldn't stop him within legal means.  And the NFL was 100% okay with that.  That league?

The same league that quietly blackballed Kaepernick for expressing his opinions about social justice, equality, equity, and police brutality - while simultaneously deciding to double down on fakeness and force teams to participate in public gestures of police support and standing for anthems seemingly in response to Kaepernick's stated issues.  That league?

The same league that sat by for decades knowing their game was causing irreversible damage to its athletes, leading many to chronic illness, debilitating conditions, brain damage, declining mental health, and even death? The same league that buried and suppressed the research linking the game to those issues?  The same league that sat on their hands while countless player after player committed suicide or harmed others after dealing with those health issues with no help from the league for years, all while the commish and his owner buddies counted their cash?  The same league that fought the players' association tooth and nail over giving many of those retired and ill-stricken vets that built their cash cow any tangible, significant benefits or help?  That league.

Oh.  Color me surprised.  Goodell has ZERO morals, ethics, or any intestinal fortitude.  The owners either.  This is simply a money-making endeavor for them, and the players are enothijg more than a means to that end to them.  So you damn well better believe they tried to start that game up, regardless of what they say.  They only care about the optics after the fact.  Just like with all those other situations, Ray Rice in particular, if they can skirt by with their actions and no one calls them on it, they absolutely will do what is best for the bottom line and the bottom line only.  Hamlin to them, in that moment, was no different than a warehouse employee who had a heart attack...  they wanted him out of the way and to get on with business as usual.  They are disgusting.  Period.

I sense distrust 🤔

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48 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Everyone has to have someone to kill

It’s just a pattern of behavior from the NFL. While I agree that they are dragging this out now but if the NFL did in fact say ok this dude is dead y’all got 5 mins to warm up and get your asses back on the field - there needs to be some accountability for this. I would expect that for any job and workplace. NFL should just own it. Admit it, apologize and learn from it. The cover up is always worse than the actual crime. 

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2 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

The same league that found copious amounts of evidence that exposed their budding dynasty at the time had cheated their way to multiple superbowl championships by recording other teams' practices and essentially having their entire gameplans as a result (including against us), so Goodell went to their offices, confiscated the tapes, then had his goons stomp them into pieces and bury them in an undisclosed location like they were Jimmy Hoffa? That league?

The same league that saw the tape of Ray Rice hitting his wife with a haymaker so vicious that it would hospitalize most grown men and decided he would just sit out a game or two because they were the only ones that saw it, so no harm, no foul...  until the tape leaked to the public and the outrage was justifiably so intense that all of a sudden, they decided it actually warranted a season-long suspension, him being released, and then being essentially blackballed from ever playing in the league again.  That league?

The same league that sat by quietly for years after player after player got popped for DV issues and they would just sweep it under the rug? The same league that allowed an environment to fester where Jovan Belcher could go kill the mother of his children, show up to the team facility and then blow his brains out as if there were no signs leading up to it? That league?

The same league that allowed our team to ride on our MVP QBs back with the #1 offense to the Superbowl in 2015, and then decided that Peyton Manning riding off into the sunset with a second championship was a better storyline so they rigged the game with inentionally horrible officiating and gave it to the Broncos.  Then after the game, in a moment I've never seen before or since, they have our QB, after just losing the biggest game of his life, mostly because he was never given a fair chance to compete, sit in an open corridor and do his post game interview and ask him what it feels like while they have Chris Harris from the Broncos 10 feet away from him bragging loudly about how they just shut him down...  so loud that he actually was drowning Cam out of his own presser.  Then that same league spent the next season and a half allowing teams to openly hunt Cam with blatant headshots and egregious attempts to concuss him, twist and contort him, and knock him out of games because they couldn't stop him within legal means.  And the NFL was 100% okay with that.  That league?

The same league that quietly blackballed Kaepernick for expressing his opinions about social justice, equality, equity, and police brutality - while simultaneously deciding to double down on fakeness and force teams to participate in public gestures of police support and standing for anthems seemingly in response to Kaepernick's stated issues.  That league?

The same league that sat by for decades knowing their game was causing irreversible damage to its athletes, leading many to chronic illness, debilitating conditions, brain damage, declining mental health, and even death? The same league that buried and suppressed the research linking the game to those issues?  The same league that sat on their hands while countless player after player committed suicide or harmed others after dealing with those health issues with no help from the league for years, all while the commish and his owner buddies counted their cash?  The same league that fought the players' association tooth and nail over giving many of those retired and ill-stricken vets that built their cash cow any tangible, significant benefits or help?  That league.

Oh.  Color me surprised.  Goodell has ZERO morals, ethics, or any intestinal fortitude.  The owners either.  This is simply a money-making endeavor for them, and the players are nothing more than a means to that end to them.  So you damn well better believe they tried to start that game up, regardless of what they say.  They only care about the optics after the fact.  Just like with all those other situations, Ray Rice in particular, if they can skirt by with their actions and no one calls them on it, they absolutely will do what is best for the bottom line and the bottom line only.  Hamlin to them, in that moment, was no different than a warehouse employee who had a heart attack...  they wanted him out of the way and to get on with business as usual.  They are disgusting.  Period.

In 10 years you can add “ The same league that used certain planted referees in key games to control storylines and fix scores for Vegas in exchange for silence on the fixed storylines? That league?”

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