Coaching interview updates

[GOAT]

imagine on passing for a proven, super bowl winning coach for the opportunity to land another Vernon Butler, Kelvin Benjamin, Everett Brown, Jeff Otah type player.

[mccjeff]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm talking about methodology (see above)

And if that methodology incorporating research and smart football people says Payton? Is that still just an idiot owner falling for the best sales pitch?

[4Corners]

9 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

looking forward to this thread getting back to coaching updates.... this dry spell is killing me

A very realistic worst case scenario is we are only left with Wilkes, Reich, and Caldwell. Big yikes. 

[4Corners]

1 minute ago, GOAT said:

imagine on passing for a proven, super bowl winning coach for the opportunity to land another Vernon Butler, Kelvin Benjamin, Everett Brown, Jeff Otah type player.

Big Vern

one of the worst draft picks in franchise history and there are a lot of bad ones 

[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

That's one of the reasons that I've said it's Payton's job since he was added to the interview list.  It's a swing for the fences but it's also a coach known for winning and an offensive minded coach. 

My problem with Payton is the compensation for his services and all the control he wants..

And jmo I think you can get Payton lite from Reich with no compensation needed and less control giving..

[The Lobo]

I have a feeling ol Payton is just getting a free steak dinner and the nicest bottle of wine on the east coast and then dipping. I respect it. 

[bigdog10]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I'm talking about methodology (see above)

I’m not sure Payton is a retread in the same manner your describing and I’d also argue that retreads have had more success recently than not. 
 

McCarthy, Pederson, Reid, Carroll are all retread coaches who have had success this year. 
 

Retread head coaches get a bad rap, but there are some legendary names who have won titles on their next teams. In fact 17/52 Super Bowls have been won by coaches who are retreads. BB obviously skews that number a bit with his six but there is more success going this route than many believe. 
 

 

[TheCasillas]

3 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

A very realistic worst case scenario is we are only left with Wilkes, Reich, and Caldwell. Big yikes. 

It would take a lot for that to happen... considering no new head coach has been hired yet... not sure that I believe thats going to happen. Everyone is just waiting on Payton.

Waitin on Payton

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

Do you prefer Reich over Payton because he'd be "free" rather than costing draft assets? Not sure why Reich is preferred to Payton if based purely on coaching acumen. I definitely think Payton is a better coach.

Not Just the draft picks, but the full control aspect.

4 minutes ago, mccjeff said:

And if that methodology incorporating research and smart football people says Payton? Is that still just an idiot owner falling for the best sales pitch?

Joe Person pointed out that Payton would likely fire the existing football people in favor of his own guys.

That tells me the existing guys probably aren't big fans of hiring Payton.

[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

A very realistic worst case scenario is we are only left with Wilkes, Reich, and Caldwell. Big yikes. 

I can’t understand why Reich is in this category.. It seem like ppl aren’t looking at his resume or refuse any coach who coach somewhere else..

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, bigdog10 said:

I’m not sure Payton is a retread in the same manner your describing and I’d also argue that retreads have had more success recently than not. 
 

McCarthy, Pederson, Reid, Carroll are all retread coaches who have had success this year. 
 

Retread head coaches get a bad rap, but there are some legendary names who have won titles on their next teams. In fact 17/52 Super Bowls have been won by coaches who are retreads. BB obviously skews that number a bit with his six but there is more success going this route than many believe. 

Who are the other three coaches besides Reid that are still in the Super Bowl race?

For that matter, who were last year's Super Bowl coaches?

Edited January 23, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[The Lobo]

Another thing, we don’t know how many draft picks it will take. We wanted two firsts for cmc…

[Pantherzilla91]

Lol at the idiot fans calling us a “bottom feeder” franchise 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Pantherzilla91 said:

Lol at the idiot fans calling us a “bottom feeder” franchise 

Right now, we absolutely are.

There's hope that we can crawl out of this position, but at the moment that's where we're at.