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3 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

 

excellent interview this Scott Bolander is terrific. He basically says Frank Reich will only consider a specific type of QB that fits his system. 

- Will not consider Bryce Young due to stature or Will Levis who's a mix between Mitch Trubisky/Sam Darnold

- C.J. Stroud, Tanner McKee, Hendon Hooker in that order would fit under Reich's offensive scheme 

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7 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Bro we are a rookie QB away from being competitive. We damn near made the playoffs with Sam Darnold.

Our rosters is one of the better rosters in the NFC. Our problem is QB! At some point you have to draft your franchise QB. You can't keep playing musical chairs with vet QB's every year.

 

Why do you keep delaying our obvious weakness of QB?

Your words. We only need a rookie QB and we are instantly a legit threat to win the NFC every year. I don't think we're that close. The teams we beat were terrible against the run. The ones that beat us weren't. We made Mitch Trubisky look like a franchise QB FFS. Any decent passing offense took the top off on our D. 

7 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

In order to be competitive you need a franchise QB.

 

The only way to get a franchise QB is either draft one or trade for that becomes available. 

 

Im not understanding your point because we will never contend without a QB. It's amazing you don't understand that.

I understand you need a QB to be competitive. You also need an offensive line, offensive weapons, and a defense. We aren't as complete as you are making this team out to be. This team has holes, one of which is QB. And I hate to break it to you, a rookie QB isn't going to come in here and take this team to a Super Bowl or NFCS. 

We can take a shot on trading up and going after a QB. Doing so will cost us dearly. I don't want to see us give up 3 1st and 3 2nds, because I think that's what it's going to take to get to 1. If we can trade firsts and give up a possible 24 first to move up for a QB, fine. But mortgaging the next 3 years when we are not a playoff, much less over 500, team is a very Hurney thing to do, and I've already had enough of that poo. Twice. 

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3 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

The GM doesn't want to lessen the value of his pick and also doesn't want to lessen the value of Fields as a potential trade asset.  So I'm not sure why you seem to be picking and choosing which of Poles' comments are legitimate and to be taken at face value, when it's all very likely deliberately framed in order to maintain the value of both pieces.  If he was outwardly lukewarm and non-committal about Fields then he's likely harming his trade value.  There's nothing you just said in your post about the #1 draft pick that doesn't also apply to Justin Fields.

He didn’t just say we like Justin he said he’s our starting QB next year. He could have answered that very differently and still not lowered his value. You’re lying to yourself if you think the Bears are going to select a QB first overall here. 

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On 2/7/2023 at 7:16 PM, TheSpecialJuan said:

1) Carolina Panthers (from CHI): Bryce Young, QB, Alabama

Trade Compensation: Carolina Panthers receive pick No. 1; Chicago Bears receive 9, 39, 93, 2024 first-round pick, and 2024 third-round pick.

As it stands, the Carolina Panthers do not have a definitive answer at quarterback. Matt Corral did not feature as a rookie, and pinning the success of a new regime to the third-round selection from last year would be a bold start to the Frank Reich era.

The Panthers make a big move to go and get the top QB option available in Bryce Young. They have good pieces scattered across the roster and can afford to pay up to go from ninth to first in this 2023 NFL Mock Draft.

This would be a solid landing spot for Young’s fantasy value. The offensive line isn’t perfect, but it has some good pieces. In DJ Moore, Terrace Marshall Jr., Shi Smith, Laviska Shenault, and Tommy Tremble, there are at least some capable weapons. Young may not deliver huge production as a rookie, but he has a QB-friendly head coach, and the Panthers could add some pieces in free agency.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2023-nfl-mock-draft-raiders-get-aaron-rodgers-hendon-hooker-heads-to-new-orleans/

You think they would notice that the 49'ers trotting out 2 ceramic figurines at QB didn't work out so well . . .

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On 2/7/2023 at 7:23 PM, CamWhoaaCam said:

I think people automatically assuming the Bears will trade the #1 pick.

 

Colin Cowherd said he had a source within the Bears front office and said the new GM isn't in love with Justin Fields and they will look to trade him.

 

You just don't say that live on air if it doesn't have some truth to it. I think they could go QB and trade Fields for assets. Keep in mind the new GM didn't draft Justin Fields.

Could be true, not saying it isn't, but Cowherd spews BS most of the time he opens his mouth. The guy is a moron

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14 hours ago, Varking said:

He didn’t just say we like Justin he said he’s our starting QB next year. He could have answered that very differently and still not lowered his value. You’re lying to yourself if you think the Bears are going to select a QB first overall here. 

Poles was outright ASKED explicitly if Justin Fields is the starter next year.  He didn't just offer that up unprompted.  So if Poles is up at the podium and is asked by a reporter "Is Justin Fields the starter next year?", then give me an example of another answer he could've given that would: 1) not lower Fields' trade value, and 2) not risk damaging the team's relationship with Fields and the locker room (since Fields does seem to be beloved by his teammates), in the likely case that the Bears do end up committing to Fields as their QB next season.  There's just zero benefit to not answering "yes" to Fields being their starter next year.  You're acting like there haven't been countless GMs and coaches who have gone against what they've said publicly at the podium lol.  All they have to do is give a cookie-cutter generic answer of "well, circumstances changed....we got an offer that was too good to pass up....we wish him the best....we're excited about Stroud/Young....etc".

For the record, no I do not think the Bears are going to select a QB first overall.  I just think you're falling victim to confirmation bias where you selectively latch onto certain things the GM says at the podium while being dismissive of others, due to your feelings about Fields.  I don't think you're giving equal weight to his qualifier of "unless we are blown away" or w/e.  Guys like Stroud and Young already have impressive tape, so all that's left is a solid Combine/Pro Day performance and some compelling interviews and it's easy to imagine them being more-or-less "blown away".

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8 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

Poles was outright ASKED explicitly if Justin Fields is the starter next year.  He didn't just offer that up unprompted.  So if Poles is up at the podium and is asked by a reporter "Is Justin Fields the starter next year?", then give me an example of another answer he could've given that would: 1) not lower Fields' trade value, and 2) not risk damaging the team's relationship with Fields and the locker room (since Fields does seem to be beloved by his teammates), in the likely case that the Bears do end up committing to Fields as their QB next season.  There's just zero benefit to not answering "yes" to Fields being their starter next year.  You're acting like there haven't been countless GMs and coaches who have gone against what they've said publicly at the podium lol.  All they have to do is give a cookie-cutter generic answer of "well, circumstances changed....we got an offer that was too good to pass up....we wish him the best....we're excited about Stroud/Young....etc".

For the record, no I do not think the Bears are going to select a QB first overall.  I just think you're falling victim to confirmation bias where you selectively latch onto certain things the GM says at the podium while being dismissive of others, due to your feelings about Fields.  I don't think you're giving equal weight to his qualifier of "unless we are blown away" or w/e.  Guys like Stroud and Young already have impressive tape, so all that's left is a solid Combine/Pro Day performance and some compelling interviews and it's easy to imagine them being more-or-less "blown away".

If you’re falling for folks over a pro day you are likely the type of GM that falls for Zach Wilson. As far as what he could say that doesn’t hurt Fields value “we are evaluating the entire roster at the moment”. When you outright say yea he’s the starter next year that means less teams are going to reach out about him now. 
 

But it’s irrelevant. Nobody really thinks the Bears are picking a first round QB or trading Justin Fields. It’s just arguing for the sake of upping post count. 

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