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6 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Add the cost in there and ask them the same question.  Jokes on you. 

It really is not very different than a capital investment decision.  Project A improves departmental productivity by 5%.  Project B improves departmental productivity by 10%.  Senior management will approve (sign) only one of the two projects (QBs); which project do you propose to management?  So, Project B is the obvious answer because it has twice the productivity gain of Project A, right?  Well, no, not really.

Project A implemented will cost $100K but has a two-year payback.  Project B implemented will cost $500K and has a ten-year payback.  You will choose Project A, as it has a higher IRR, faster payback and lower initial capital investment; it's a lower risk, higher return project.  Senior management will choose Project A every time, and they are right to do so.

Now do the same analysis with Lamar and Carr, using expected output, contract amount, draft picks surrendered and likely maintenance interval (injuries, not available to play).  Expected performance is never independent of cost of acquisition and risk of failure.

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So The 33rd Team posted a graphic comparing the Jets leading passer rating over the last several seasons to Carr's rating that same year.

Carr wins nearly every comparison (including three over Darnold) but check out the lone guy that beat him...

He looks familiar 😆

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13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

So The 33rd Team posted a graphic comparing the Jets leading passer rating over the last several seasons to Carr's rating that same year.

Carr wins nearly every comparison (including three over Darnold) but check out the lone guy that beat him...

He looks familiar 😆

Well, let’s suit him up!  If Brady…

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10 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

No thanks

 

Setting aside whether you want him here or not, the comment that it's fair market for a good vet is probably true.

We signed Bridgewater for around 20 million if I remember right. That was fair for a veteran at the time. With inflation and the cap going up, 35 is probably a good figure now.

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15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Setting aside whether you want him here or not, the comment that it's fair market for a good vet is probably true.

We signed Bridgewater for around 20 million if I remember right. That was fair for a veteran at the time. With inflation and the cap going up, 35 is probably a good figure now.

Rhule and Hurney paid Teddy $20M. He's averaged like $7M per year for every other year. I know Carr/Jones/Jimmy G want 35-40 but I just don't think they're that much better than Teddy/Minshew/Brissett types that will play for under 10. 

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Rhule and Hurney paid Teddy $20M. He's averaged like $7M per year for every other year. I know Carr/Jones/Jimmy G want 35-40 but I just don't think they're that much better than Teddy/Minshew/Brissett types that will play for under 10. 

Granted, you have to evaluate the veteran properly and we didn't have the people who could do that.

I think we do now.

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34 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Setting aside whether you want him here or not, the comment that it's fair market for a good vet is probably true.

We signed Bridgewater for around 20 million if I remember right. That was fair for a veteran at the time. With inflation and the cap going up, 35 is probably a good figure now.

Almost goes without saying that today's NFL QB contract numbers are absurd, especially considering that they were well out of control a decade ago when they were in the 20 mil/year range.  Having said that, the reality is today's average to slightly above average NFL QBs are poised to secure 30 million plus per year contracts going forward.  It won't change until serviceable QBs start getting 40 mil/year contracts. 

Crazy but true:  In today's market, Carr is likely to secure a 3 year contract worth over 100 million.  

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4 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Almost goes without saying that today's NFL QB contract numbers are absurd, especially considering that they were well out of control a decade ago when they were in the 20 mil/year range.  Having said that, the reality is today's average to slightly above average NFL QBs are poised to secure 30 million plus per year contracts going forward.  It won't change until serviceable QBs start getting 40 mil/year contracts. 

Crazy but true:  In today's market, Carr is likely to secure a 3 year contract worth over 100 million.  

Remember when everybody was freaking out about Deion Sanders getting 35 million? 😄

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