DARNOLD

[Shotgun]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Lots of people think he did pretty good.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/37267/sam-darnold-putting-panthers-himself-in-position-for-success-by-staying-patient%3fplatform=amp

 

Again no one says we shouldn't draft a qb but the question is whether Darnold at say 15 million is a better value for example than Carr at 30 mil. And whether he can start until a younger guy can take over.. Should be interesting what they decide with Carr on Monday after seeing and interviewing the draft class.

Neither of those options are a good value. 

[panthers55]

18 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Neither of those options are a good value. 

Reich needs to have a winning season given Wilks went 6-6 with a revolving door of qbs and didn't get to pick his players or coaches like Reich did. So the days of starting a rookie and going 4-13 aren't going to cut it. We need a qb who can win now and allow any rookie to develop over time as has been traditionally the case. Mahomes benefitted greatly from sitting a year and watching Alex Smith for example. What vet is a better value??

[CRA]

10 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

So what happens if we do end up re-signing Darnold? Hell, we’re already reportedly having preliminary talks with him which should already set off alarms for you. Is this new highly touted coaching staff with universal league-wide respect, just a bunch of blind delusional buffoons or what? That’s the problem with taking these arrogant hard-line positions on how “obvious” it is that a player is trash - it becomes pretty awkward when a respected non-Rhule coaching staff ends up signing him.

I would assume it would mean we simply couldn’t get a good option at a good price.  And therefore signed a bad option to be a pointless warm body. 
 

[mrcompletely11]

29 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Reich needs to have a winning season given Wilks went 6-6 with a revolving door of qbs and didn't get to pick his players or coaches like Reich did. So the days of starting a rookie and going 4-13 aren't going to cut it. We need a qb who can win now and allow any rookie to develop over time as has been traditionally the case. Mahomes benefitted greatly from sitting a year and watching Alex Smith for example. What vet is a better value??

Still salty, I fuging love it

[TLGPanthersFan]

1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

Lots of people think he did pretty good.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/37267/sam-darnold-putting-panthers-himself-in-position-for-success-by-staying-patient%3fplatform=amp

 

Again no one says we shouldn't draft a qb but the question is whether Darnold at say 15 million is a better value for example than Carr at 30 mil. And whether he can start until a younger guy can take over.. Should be interesting what they decide with Carr on Monday after seeing and interviewing the draft class.

Those people are wrong. If Darnold starts next year this team will not make the playoffs and Darnold will be the reason why. You can not win consistently with the way Wilks ran the offense last year. 
You just can’t and that is the only way you can limit Darnold making mistakes. 
He isn’t a QB you can rely on if the running game goes to pop. 

[Shotgun]

1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

Reich needs to have a winning season given Wilks went 6-6 with a revolving door of qbs and didn't get to pick his players or coaches like Reich did. So the days of starting a rookie and going 4-13 aren't going to cut it. We need a qb who can win now and allow any rookie to develop over time as has been traditionally the case. Mahomes benefitted greatly from sitting a year and watching Alex Smith for example. What vet is a better value??

We can pay a lot less for poor QB play than 15 mil. I don't really care about the money though, I care about winning.

Win now and Darnold should never be used in the same sentence. lol

[shaqattaq]

On 3/1/2023 at 9:49 AM, WUnderhill said:

Sometimes guys just get ruined. As good as the coaching staff may be, I don’t think they can un-do 5 years of damage in one off-season.

Edited March 2, 2023 by shaqattaq

[CRA]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

It is one that has historically been used to compare qbs so it has legitimacy and long standing. You don't ignore it just because it doesn't fit your agenda.

Taysom Hill and Blaine Gabbert had the best QB ratings in the NFL last year   

you generally won't find them or Sam Darnold listed and tracked on most sites because he and they didn't play enough.  And when you barely play, the results get skewed significantly vs the field.   So they exclude them from even showing because of that. 

You don't ignore it.  You also can't take a number like that a face value.  

[Panthera onca]

No. More. Sam. We have seen enough.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Panthera onca said:

No. More. Sam. We have seen enough.

[glenwo2]

On 3/1/2023 at 9:26 AM, Mr. Scot said:

David Newton has reported that the Panthers have already had "preliminary discussions" with Sam Darnold.

Define "Preliminary discussions".

What does that even mean?

Is it like "Say, Sam....You want to come back?"   Sam's like "Sure."  and that's that?

 

Or is it "Uh Sam...so if you want to come back, you'll have to be a backup or a Bridge QB 'cause we're drafting one."  Sam's like "uhh....." ????

 

 

[glenwo2]

On 3/1/2023 at 9:41 AM, Bear Hands said:

He had quite the stellar achievement in having the lowest recorded game winning QBR in league HISTORY in that final Saints battle.  

A win is a win, though.  

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

Define "Preliminary discussions".

What does that even mean?

Is it like "Say, Sam....You want to come back?"   Sam's like "Sure."  and that's that?

 

Or is it "Uh Sam...so if you want to come back, you'll have to be a backup or a Bridge QB 'cause we're drafting one."  Sam's like "uhh....." ????

 

 

I doubt he would even know that as well.

[glenwo2]

 

On 3/1/2023 at 11:10 AM, TLGPanthersFan said:

Chemistry doesn’t mean anything. He will still turnover the ball like crazy. 

You're just continuously throwing a tantrum here at anyone even remotely suggesting he return.

Relax, man. 

When all is said and done, two things will have happened :

1.) We sign a different Vet to backup whomever we draft

or

2.) We re-sign Sam to backup whomever we draft.  

 

But here's the rub with #2 as there's no guarantee Sam would entertain being a backup at just age 25(going on 26) so the chances of him moving on are even higher right now.