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So... Common Sense Says We're Drafting Stroud... Right????

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13 hours ago, Wundrbread33 said:

See that’s the thing. Young is a complete QB prospect with one glaring flaw….size. 
 

Should we pass up the best QB because he “might get hurt”? He also might not ever miss serious time. 
 

I guess my point is, the only consistent issue with him is size. He’s the best QB if he was bigger. 
 

It’s a pickle. 

At 9, sure roll the dice, if he dies you go again next year.

At #1 after giving up so much - oh lord.

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18 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

No, the Panthers did this deal early because the Bears dictated terms to us.

They wanted to make the trade prior to FA so they knew where they stood - they now don't have to go hard after a FA WR.

You act like an early move can’t be mutually advantageous. 

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21 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

No, the Panthers did this deal early because the Bears dictated terms to us.

They wanted to make the trade prior to FA so they knew where they stood - they now don't have to go hard after a FA WR.

Us doing this before FA was really important for both of us. A lot easier to stomach losing DJ when you still have time to add weapons. Also not having to pay up for a Starting QB this year helps open up the books for us to improve other places.

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17 hours ago, poundaway said:

Maybe it's Richardson.  He's probably the only one fast enough to catch his own passes.

This must have you in a tough spot. Tepper signed off on shipping off Moore but you wouldn't want to be seen being critical of your favorite billionaire owner. What to do what to do.

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6 minutes ago, MVPccaffrey said:

It's going to be a long rest of the decade if we draft a 5'11" QB to play in today's NFL

Today's NFL is the most QB friendly it’s ever been. A normal hit on the QB is roughing the passer and the league has no intentions of changing that. 

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13 minutes ago, Shocker said:

I still think Young is the best player in this draft and passing on him would be a mistake.

That's why they made the trade now. Plenty of time to mull it over. But I will trust Reich's judgment. Also Josh McCown will have a thing or two to say about all this.

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18 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

There is no better ability in sports than availability.  It doesn't matter how good you are, if you aren't healthy enough to play, your skill means nothing.

If we're talking about any position other than QB, then yea, maybe you take the chance on the "better player" as opposed to the one who has a lesser chance of getting hurt.  But Young's lack of bulk is a significant factor that can't be ignored, particularly after giving up everything we had to give up to get here.

If we just had the #1 pick from the start and could take Young without giving up future assets, then it's a little different, but we gave up far too much to take the risk on someone of his size.

“There is no better ability in sports than availability.  It doesn't matter how good you are, if you aren't healthy enough to play, your skill means nothing.”

Nail on the head.  And once a player starts getting injured durability almost always goes the wrong way (quick or gradual).

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