Breer on #1, trade down options

[rayzor]

56 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

So you telling me Stroud and Young are basically who they are deciding on right now?

 

Good to hear AR and Levis aren't seriously being considered with the #1 pick.

I think there is more discussion for AR than Levis. 

If I had to rank them it would be 

Stroud/Young (who is in front depends on the day)

Richardson

 

 

Levis.

I think they are excited about the prospect of AR and would love to have a workable plan for him, but he's behind Young and Stroud.

[Mr. Scot]

5 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

You mean our GM isn’t disclosing his exact draft plan in mid March? That seems odd….

I mean, when you've got the #1 pick, you could send a video out to everyone in the league saying "You want this guy? Well, #@$& you! We're taking him!" Then drop your pants and moon everybody for good measure and nobody could do sh-t about it.

[glenwo2]

6 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I mean, when you've got the #1 pick, you could send a video out to everyone in the league saying "You want this guy? Well, #@$& you! We're taking him!" Then drop your pants and moon everybody for good measure and nobody could do sh-t about it.

I can't deny that I would love to see Fitts moon everyone and then fart in their general direction.

 

[CPantherKing]

Watch as the Panthers target Will Anderson to complete the best 34 LB combo to keep their promise to  Evero/Capers. Will Anderson - Shaq Thompson - Jeremy Chinn - Brian Burns. Rotate to a 35 with Luvu coming in at LB for Xavier Woods. This will be fun to see and give the Panthers the best chance at winning under Reich while they pick up extra picks to stock up on receiving talent at TE, RB, and WR.

Breer and Keyshawn are on point. Panthers make the Texans and Colts pay up for Bryce Young and CJ Stroud.

[45catfan]

Trade back with Houston and get their #73 pick and one of their three sixth rounders, plus a 4th next year.  We recoup two picks this year and one for next year.  Granted the picks aren't the same value as what we gave up, but picks none-the-less.

[45catfan]

Houston just got another pick in the Cooks trade.  I think they have a total of 12 picks now.  Screw value, especially on day three, move back to #2 and get a handful of these picks!

[FakePlasticTrees]

19 hours ago, rayzor said:

I think there is more discussion for AR than Levis. 

If I had to rank them it would be 

Stroud/Young (who is in front depends on the day)

Richardson

 

 

Levis.

I think they are excited about the prospect of AR and would love to have a workable plan for him, but he's behind Young and Stroud.

I have a suspicion that the Panthers have more interest in Levis than is currently being assumed. 

[ForJimmy]

5 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Houston just got another pick in the Cooks trade.  I think they have a total of 12 picks now.  Screw value, especially on day three, move back to #2 and get a handful of these picks!

The problem is I think Houston is ok with Young or Stroud. Hopefully they fall in love with one of them at the Pro Days. 

[ForJimmy]

9 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

Watch as the Panthers target Will Anderson to complete the best 34 LB combo to keep their promise to  Evero/Capers. Will Anderson - Shaq Thompson - Jeremy Chinn - Brian Burns. Rotate to a 35 with Luvu coming in at LB for Xavier Woods. This will be fun to see and give the Panthers the best chance at winning under Reich while they pick up extra picks to stock up on receiving talent at TE, RB, and WR.

Breer and Keyshawn are on point. Panthers make the Texans and Colts pay up for Bryce Young and CJ Stroud.

Anderson is too close to Burns. We did that with Reddick and Burns. It’s great against the pass but not against the run. We won 5 games that year…

[DaveThePanther2008]

On 3/18/2023 at 5:28 AM, Mr. Scot said:

There is one other scenario I could possibly see, that being that the Texans see us talking to the Colts.

There's also a potential scenario where we actually trade with the Colts, but that only becomes plausible if A) we like three guys and/or B) they make us a ridiculous offer.

Gun to my head, I think we stay at #1. My hope in that scenario is we take CJ Stroud...

...but anything's possible. 

Trading back to the Colts wouldn't be such a bad idea if Arizona was going to stay put at #3 but someone is going to trade up for that 3rd spot.  So IMO if we trade down it will only be to #2. Having talks with Indy could press Houston to bite on moving up to #1.   

It would be great because they seem to love Young and he's their #1 pick which would give us picks and our QB Stroud.  

[CPantherKing]

5 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Anderson is too close to Burns. We did that with Reddick and Burns. It’s great against the pass but not against the run. We won 5 games that year…

Tell me you don't know what an edge/spur/dog does in a 34/35 defense without telling me you don't know. I'll let Kevin Greene and Lamar Lathon know they can't be 34 OLBs in a defense that can win because they are some of the worst tackling and coverage LBs in NFL history.

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, CPantherKing said:

Tell me you don't know what an edge/spur/dog does in a 34/35 defense without telling me you don't know. I'll let Kevin Greene and Lamar Lathon know they can't be 34 OLBs in a defense that can win because they are some of the worst tackling and coverage LBs in NFL history.

Bigger OL tend to keep Anderson in check in college. He is quick but considered slightly undersized which is very similar to Burns. Not everyone is going to have the motor of a Von Miller to compensate for size. Keep naming retired players and help prove my point that it’s not common anymore. The fact you are mentioning a defender with our top pick shows your lack of comprehension, but please continue. Aqeel Glass 2022 and Icky is a bust right??? What a joke….

[CPantherKing]

8 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Bigger OL tend to keep Anderson in check in college. He is quick but considered slightly undersized which is very similar to Burns. Not everyone is going to have the motor of a Von Miller to compensate for size. Keep naming retired players and help prove my point that it’s not common anymore. The fact you are mentioning a defender with our top pick shows your lack of comprehension, but please continue. Aqeel Glass 2022 and Icky is a bust right??? What a joke….

Be sure to inform Evero and Capers about this since they messed up and went with 6-3 240 OLBs in Denver. Browning and Cooper were the OLBs that got the starts for the Broncos. Chubb is the unusual 34 OLB at his size. The average for their OLBs was 6-3 252. Evero goes with long and fast OLBs. Will Anderson is exactly what Evero looks for in a 34 OLB while being a half inch taller and 1 pound heavier. You should also know the DE is over the OT in a 34 defense. You do not know about a 34 defense and position responsibilities/matchups. Clearly it is common in 2022 and Evero will go with smaller OLBs than Will Anderson. I used Capers 34 defense in Carolina as an example, but I guess you don't know much about that era for the Panthers.

As for Ekwonu, you can stop the lies in hopes people will believe you. I have never said he is a bust. You all keep that going. I said he is an ALL PRO Guard playing/struggling with his pass blocking at LT. You keep an eye on Glass. He is still around, and the NFL QB position has a long history of successful franchise QBs coming from other professional leagues.

[Aussie Tank]

On 3/19/2023 at 3:03 PM, CPantherKing said:

Watch as the Panthers target Will Anderson to complete the best 34 LB combo to keep their promise to  Evero/Capers. Will Anderson - Shaq Thompson - Jeremy Chinn - Brian Burns. Rotate to a 35 with Luvu coming in at LB for Xavier Woods. This will be fun to see and give the Panthers the best chance at winning under Reich while they pick up extra picks to stock up on receiving talent at TE, RB, and WR.

Breer and Keyshawn are on point. Panthers make the Texans and Colts pay up for Bryce Young and CJ Stroud.

You just like being contrarian for the sake of it