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PETER KING with the latest: there are several within Panthers organization that favor Bryce Young

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9 hours ago, Ivory Panther said:

I've my money on ppl thinking Bryce Young size talk was so RIDICULOUS kind of like Rashan Slater arm length or Kenny Pickett hand size etc...

Kenny Pickett has 7 (passing) TDs, 9 INTs and 4 fumbles my dude. 

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1 hour ago, Basbear said:

Dalton is here for reasons, not to say I want AR......Id just be more team AR if they still had the 9th pick...... Ive said this before too, if panthers had a eagles or 49ers roster and traded up to #1........AR would my top pick.

Panthers are not close in talent, so need to focus on who can lead this team. God didnt bless young with the size, weight, and speed. Stroud it is then.

I went back and watched some young stuff, he does throw lots while on the tips of his toes.....and its all full effort and whole body. Stroud is just a bigger young and has no need to do either of those. I think if you switched both, be the same results(team-wise). I just can not overlook the size, young doesnt have the quick speed like a murray/vick......If he did Id have a much harder time...

"young doesnt have the quick speed like a murray/vick......If he did Id have a much harder time..."

Usually when we're talking about elite talent in the NFL they aren't one or two dimensional.

What Vick and Murray give up in size they made up for with speed, especially Vick. All the improvisational stuff will be studied and taken away by NFL DCs a little every game until you have to rely on the fundamentals to win at QB because there is no extra time to buy in the NFL. Those rainbows and cupcakes won't happen enough to actually win games.

Someone speaking on STROUD said if they didn't cover every option he'd find the open man and make them pay every time. That's system, reading, throwing on platform, sounds like building on rock not the sands of improvisation.

And the nail in the coffin...

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Young will be a huge mistake. Hopefully these clowns making the decisions don’t over think this one and screw it’s up.  Sadly I have zero faith in anything Tepper has his hands  on outside of hedge funds. 

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28 minutes ago, Chief Keek said:

Another thread, another debate, more speculation!

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Im at 85% stroud and thats a strong&tall 85..... The NFL media is in the business of making it a young vs stroud deal, but I feel the first sentence. They have made me drop stroud form 97% to 85, so congrats to them.......

They are doing their job to make this feel like a unclear pick and they are pulling out alllllllllllllll the tricks. Plus it seems most of the "only young at all cost" are of the low posting numbers and new account types.........just murkin this board with.... 

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5 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

If we take young, we are about to fug this up so bad.

I'd rather our coaches coach up Stroud to his full potential and have a full playbook than spend half their energy game planning around Youngs limitations. Young stans can't deny that he will limit the playbook and force the O-line to be near perfect so he can have his 3 second scramble/8 yard drop back game work at the NFL level

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3 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

I'd rather our coaches coach up Stroud to his full potential and have a full playbook than spend half their energy game planning around Youngs limitations. Young stans can't deny that he will limit the playbook and force the O-line to be near perfect so he can have his 3 second scramble/8 yard drop back game work at the NFL level

Yup, and again, as the advanced stats pointed out, he struggled the most out of all of the top QB prospects in completing throws to the sidelines...  combining that inability with the troubles he'll have seeing over NFL-sized lines for the middle of the field throws, then I just don't see the appeal.

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