Chris Mortensen: Bryce Young is the pick, they all love Bryce Young

[LinvilleGorge]

8 minutes ago, gmonjimbo said:

Just wanted to share some comments Fitterer noted about Young's arm strength. I think Young has an average NFL arm, CJ has good NFL , and Mahomes or Allen elite. For below average would be Tua and Teddy Bridgewater. 

“Thought he was very fluid, very poised,” Fitterer said. “Ball came out of his hand nice and easy — plenty of arm strength. I think, overall, he managed to do well.

“Saw a lot of good things out of him. Very in control, very poised. It’s just like you thought it would be. I know I heard comments around me, like, ‘Hey, his arm is better in person than I thought,’ [from] coaches that had only seen tape. That’s from other teams, but it’s always good to hear things like that.”

I don't think Fitts has said anything to tip his hand. I haven't heard him do anything but talk glowingly about any prospect he's been asked about.

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't think Fitts has said anything to tip his hand. I haven't heard him do anything but talk glowingly about any prospect he's been asked about.

When you have pick one I am not sure what the benefit is by playing things close to the vest.   

[Ivory Panther]

13 minutes ago, gmonjimbo said:

Just wanted to share some comments Fitterer noted about Young's arm strength. I think Young has an average NFL arm, CJ has good NFL , and Mahomes or Allen elite. For below average would be Tua and Teddy Bridgewater. 

“Thought he was very fluid, very poised,” Fitterer said. “Ball came out of his hand nice and easy — plenty of arm strength. I think, overall, he managed to do well.

“Saw a lot of good things out of him. Very in control, very poised. It’s just like you thought it would be. I know I heard comments around me, like, ‘Hey, his arm is better in person than I thought,’ [from] coaches that had only seen tape. That’s from other teams, but it’s always good to hear things like that.”

I agree with this.

Crazy that Tua & Teddy are on the same team. It's almost like McDaniel has a type. lol

[MHS831]

3 hours ago, Htarnation4.0 said:

Agree. It's not a matter of if BY gets hurt, it's a question of when he gets hurt. All guys at that level sustain injuries, but his frame is the issue. I can envision a snowball effect and that would be disaster for this franchise 

Yeah.  We need a 6-5, 245 lb. QB---they never get hurt!

(Playful sarcasm--I see your point)

[MHS831]

Funny they use the Lance / Jones comparison--not a good one at all.  First, SF could have wanted Lance all along--but did not want Wilson--so they leaked they would take Jones, causing everyone to relax and not trade with NYJ for Lance--who knows?  And if you think a team is willing to trade all that draft capital to move up for Lance, maybe it causes you to rethink Lance---nobody was taking Jones at #2....

Lots of strategery going on.

[Jaxel]

I'm not worried about Young's arm strength, he has more than enough to make all the throws. 

[Martin]

If it is Young I hope I’m completely wrong with my concerns. I’m a Panthers supporter first and foremost. But I would be a bit disappointed, no doubt. But on the other hand, what do I know about picking a QB?

I also assume there are limited leaks at this point. Anyone who claims to have sources are just making it up, and essentially just sharing their best guess. 

[MHS831]

3 hours ago, SOJA said:

There is so much media smoke around Bryce that it seems like the Panthers are almost desperately leaking we like him so Houston trades up to 1 and we take Stroud at 2

I am seeing no indication that we are trading this pick--they will have a favorite by April 27 and they will not risk it.  Just my opinion.

[Martin]

2 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

I'm not worried about Young's arm strength, he has more than enough to make all the throws. 

My concern is that it looks like he really have to step in to his throws as he can’t just flick his wrist like most top QBs. But I might be wrong.

[Mr. Scot]

22 minutes ago, Martin said:

My favorite is Brugler from the Athletic. He’s really, really good.

Agree on Brugler...

[CamWhoaaCam]

The draft is in 3 weeks.

 

Pretty sure they have narrowed it down to 2 QB's. At this point it's just Fitt/Frank agreeing on which QB gives them the best chance to win short and long term.

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

I'm not worried about Young's arm strength, he has more than enough to make all the throws. 

Agree with this, though it's fair to point out Stroud's deep ball is better.

Don't think anyone is that worried about how good he can play so much as they are how long he can keep playing.

[backINblack28]

1 hour ago, Ivory Panther said:

According to several reports (including Joe Person of the athletic), the deal started to be discussed Monday & continued throughout the week.CJ worked out on Saturday...

I understand the logic of, they traded because they saw CJ workout, but it doesn't appear to be the case since the intent to trade started at least 5 days before he even worked out. 

On top of it, Fitt & Reich both said the tape was more important than the workouts.

So I doubt that the workout was the reason for the trade, although without the insight from Joe Person of the athletic, it would be logical to think so.

 

Fair point--do you have the articles handy that refer to that how that timeline shook out?

[CamTheMan]

For me, the QB debate comes down to one phrase: "I don't know."

There are so many qualities about Bryce Young that point to him being a generational talent but there are also qualities that make me say "I don't know" if he's going to be able to get away with that in the NFL. His drop back depth being so deep, his time to throw being so long, etc. Obviously his frame is talked about and that's another question mark, but every prospect can get injured. Bottom line: even though Bryce Young has elite traits, there are also a lot of questions about how he plays and adapts at the next level.

CJ Stroud might not have as many truly elite traits, but I can't think of a single question mark. He is above average at every aspect of the quarterback position while being a truly elite passer of the football. For a franchise that has had the inconsistencies we have had and the recent stretch of awfulness we've gone through, I think there is a genuine risk to our long-term future if we draft a bust. I know it is the NFL, but I don't see a way CJ Stroud busts (barring a freak incident). Think he is the best fit for our franchise and would bring a level of consistency we've never had.