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Bryce Young under Center

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https://www.the33rdteam.com/category/analysis/nfl-teams-moving-out-from-under-cenet-riding-shotgunnfl-teams-riding-shotgun/

According to this article 66% of all snaps were in the Shotgun formation last year. Only 3 teams took more than 50% of their snaps from under center and one of those was the patriots who also have a former Alabama QB (Mac Jones) who rarely took snaps under center in college.

 

 

 

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I'm sure someone can dig into the #'s on how often Reich ran shotgun vs under center.

Bryce definitely doesnt have a noodle arm but some pro Young folks are overrating his arm strength. Didn't he go 1-5 deep at his own pro day?

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4 minutes ago, frankw said:

I'm sure someone can dig into the #'s on how often Reich ran shotgun vs under center.

Bryce definitely doesnt have a noodle arm but some pro Young folks are overrating his arm strength. Didn't he go 1-5 deep at his own pro day?

I know Frank lines up like 75% in 2020 but I think it changed based on his QB. He’s probably slightly over league average of 66% I’d imagine. 

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1 hour ago, jb2288 said:

Literally no professional scout, gm, or organization has said he has a noodle arm. Why you making stuff up?

Every scout said arm strength is a concern with him.  He generates little to none zip on the ball.  Not sure what scout reports you reading.

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1 hour ago, Basbear said:

What the stats under a frank recih team? Thats what is needed to see if this is a fit or need to over come. 

Rams too. 

The question is does Reich change with the times or does he keep more of the traditional under center offense? This is perhaps last chance at being an HC since he's no spring chicken and the game has evolved to be more spread than under center. Just look at HS and college football for proof. The majority of these young QBs have grown up in the spread. No matter which QB the Panthers take at #1, it would be better to allow them to operate the offense in the way they're most comfortable doing than trying to force them to be something they're not. Hopefully, Reich and Co do that instead of trying to force a square peg into a round hole like former Panthers' coaches have done.

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6 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

The question is does Reich change with the times or does he keep more of the traditional under center offense? This is perhaps last chance at being an HC since he's no spring chicken and the game has evolved to be more spread than under center. Just look at HS and college football for proof. The majority of these young QBs have grown up in the spread. No matter which QB the Panthers take at #1, it would be better to allow them to operate the offense in the way they're most comfortable doing than trying to force them to be something they're not. Hopefully, Reich and Co do that instead of trying to force a square peg into a round hole like former Panthers' coaches have done.

Honestly cam sorta started forcing the NFL to open the old rusty gates "Play under center!!". They waited too long, saban did too...... I do see the point of why do the 3-5-7 drops, just be at the 3-5-7 drop depth to start with or close to..... Timing sure, but that can be fixed too. Stuck in their own way and too afraid to change.

Ive never like or believe in a staff like the current one here, they will do whats best. 

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2 hours ago, jb2288 said:

Literally no professional scout, gm, or organization has said he has a noodle arm. Why you making stuff up?

He doesn't have a noodle arm, but:

" The deep ball is nothing special and his drive velocity fails to stand out, but he has enough arm strength to make the necessary throws. " https://www.nfl.com/prospects/bryce-young/3200594f-5512-4763-ab24-c1bd051ef0ef

"Negatives: — Arm strength is not bad, but more would help ease size concerns."  https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10048341-bryce-young-nfl-draft-2023-scouting-report-for-alabama-qb

"Young’s arm is strong enough, but he doesn’t have elite arm strength. His velocity is good, but has a visible cap and can be inconsistent. He sometimes fails to push that velocity to the deep third. " https://www.profootballnetwork.com/bryce-young-qb-alabama-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2023/

More than good enough to be a good starter though.

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11 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Young doesn't have a noodle arm. That's just crazy hater talk.

Young’s arm is strong enough, but he doesn’t have elite arm strength. His velocity is good, but has a visible cap and can be inconsistent. He sometimes fails to push that velocity to the deep third. Young also operates with a lot of schemed plays and predetermined reads by design, and he has room to become a more independent processor. There are times when Young sticks to his first read too long, and he can be reliant on rhythm throws.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/bryce-young-qb-alabama-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2023/amp/

 

One NFL quarterbacks coach believes Bryce Young made the right call by not throwing at the NFL Scouting Combine on Saturday.

Speaking to The Athletic's Bruce Feldman, the coach said Young's arm strength would've been "unimpressive" compared to other top quarterbacks Anthony Richardson, C.J. Stroud and Will Levis.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10067920-nfl-coach-bryce-youngs-arm-unimpressive-compared-to-richardson-stroud-levis.amp.html

I can keep going.

 

Bryce Young ceiling is Alex Smith.  Field general who need to be surrounded with top talent at next level to win.

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37 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

Every scout said arm strength is a concern with him.  He generates little to none zip on the ball.  Not sure what scout reports you reading.

Not a noodle arm, though.  Just not elite.  Still good enough to be a high level starter.

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Young’s arm is strong enough, but he doesn’t have elite arm strength. His velocity is good, but has a visible cap and can be inconsistent. He sometimes fails to push that velocity to the deep third. Young also operates with a lot of schemed plays and predetermined reads by design, and he has room to become a more independent processor. There are times when Young sticks to his first read too long, and he can be reliant on rhythm throws.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/bryce-young-qb-alabama-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2023/amp/

 

One NFL quarterbacks coach believes Bryce Young made the right call by not throwing at the NFL Scouting Combine on Saturday.

Speaking to The Athletic's Bruce Feldman, the coach said Young's arm strength would've been "unimpressive" compared to other top quarterbacks Anthony Richardson, C.J. Stroud and Will Levis.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10067920-nfl-coach-bryce-youngs-arm-unimpressive-compared-to-richardson-stroud-levis.amp.html

I can keep going.

 

Bryce Young ceiling is Alex Smith.  Field general who need to be surrounded with top talent at next level to win.

Bryce Young was and is widely considered to be the number one QB and player in the draft. Deal with it!

You said that he had a noodle arm. That's categorically untrue.

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He’s got a very similar arm to Burrow coming out, they can make every throw but you wish that had a tad more.

Burrows arm has taken a step change in the NFL that’s really elevated his game. That’s not unheard of a lot of QBs gain arm strength their first few years in the NFL.

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