What could a trade down look like?

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

Sat basically the whole year with a hamstring, while already only running a 4.5 forty. Probably limited to slot, people question whether he can get separation in the NFL

If we can land him at 39 I will be thrilled!  I just don't see him dropping like that.  He is the best route runner in the class right?

[Mr. Scot]

This might conceivably be a separate discussion, but re: the draft chart...

 

[t96]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's the heart of the question.

If the Panthers are as equally "convicted" on Stroud as they are on Young (and yes that's genuinely possible; multiple reports confirmed that they had at least two guys in mind when they traded up) then a trade down scenario truly does make a lot of sense.

If not, then no reason to move.

My ultimate answer to the whole thing is I don't care who they take or where they take them as long as it turns out to be the right choice.

To quote Metallica, nothing else matters.

It may be possible but after the last few weeks and the money speaking those odds are extremely extremely slim. Seems pretty clear and obvious Young is our guy, period.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, t96 said:

It may be possible but after the last few weeks and the money speaking those odds are extremely extremely slim. Seems pretty clear and obvious Young is our guy, period.

I don't really give a damn about odds. The people who make those don't have inside connections.

The rest is all pretty much speculation. The team's done a pretty good job keeping a lid on leaks since the trade.

I expect it'll be Young, but it past drafts have taught us anything, it's that you never know.

[Sgt Schultz]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's the heart of the question.

If the Panthers are as equally "convicted" on Stroud as they are on Young (and yes that's genuinely possible; multiple reports confirmed that they had at least two guys in mind when they traded up) then a trade down scenario  truly makes a lot of sense.

If not, then no reason to move.

My ultimate answer to the whole thing is I don't care who they take or where they take them as long as it turns out to be the right choice.

Nothing else matters.

This discussion is really all theoretical, as they all are.

We have no idea how many of the potential choices they are fine with.  We have no idea who ranks where on their list.  We have no idea how strongly they want their #1 vs. their #2 or even their #3. 

We get reports from people with inside sources, but it is unlikely those sources are named Fitterer, Reich, Tepper, or anybody else at that level.  Their inside sources may not have any real idea or have their own biases.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Sgt Schultz said:

This discussion is really all theoretical, as they all are.

We have no idea how many of the potential choices they are fine with.  We have no idea who ranks where on their list.  We have no idea how strongly they want their #1 vs. their #2 or even their #3. 

We get reports from people with inside sources, but it is unlikely those sources are named Fitterer, Reich, Tepper, or anybody else at that level.  Their inside sources may not have any real idea or have their own biases.

If I were to tune in on draft day and watch the team take Will Levis, I might have to stay off the internet for a few...decades

[toldozer]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Pick 12 seems to be a non-negotiable for the folks who would accept this trade.

It's kind of begs the question, if we did get that pick, who would you take with it? 

Best pass rusher or wr1 or hell robinson

[PanthersGOATFan336]

I don't see Houston trading #2 & 12 to draft a 5'10, 190 QB. They might draft Young if the #Panthers took Stroud, but I can't see them trading up when the Panthers don't have to draft him if they'd rather not. If a trade happened, HOU has leverage: Panthers might get #2 & #33.

[t96]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't really give a damn about odds. The people who make those don't have inside connections.

The rest is all pretty much speculation. The team's done a pretty good job keeping a lid on leaks since the trade.

I expect it'll be Young, but it past drafts have taught us anything, it's that you never know.

The people with more money than you can even imagine and who are putting that money on the line 100% have more info than anyone other than the team itself. And I'm referring to Vegas/oddsmakers resulting in the line shifting not the random people betting on it. It's Young.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, toldozer said:

Best pass rusher or wr1 or hell robinson

Robinson at 12 would be a hell of a story.

Lotta people don't seem to think he makes it past the Eagles, but anything's possible.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, t96 said:

The people with more money than you can even imagine and who are putting that money on the line 100% have more info than anyone other than the team itself. And I'm referring to Vegas/oddsmakers resulting in the line shifting not the random people betting on it. It's Young.

The Vegas oddsmakers predicted our next coach would be Jim Harbaugh...more than once.

[Pup McBarky]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The Vegas oddsmakers predicted our next coach would be Jim Harbaugh...more than once.

Not this late in the game, though. 

[FuFuLamePoo]

Vegas is in the business of making money. Very rarely do they lose, acting like these lines are meaningless is dumb. Sure before our coaching search even started Harbaugh was a favorite, but obviously that ironed out once we started scheduling interviews and launched our process.

The draft is 7 days away. This was a hypothetical article where the creator did a trade for every pick. Fitterer said we aren't trading the pick. This is over over.

[t96]

58 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The Vegas oddsmakers predicted our next coach would be Jim Harbaugh...more than once.

Yes early on when nobody knows anything there's all kinds of stuff like that. It trended away from him pretty quickly