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Merrill Hoge on Dan Patrick show shares thoughts about draft..


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21 minutes ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

@ncfan @poundaway 

Care to share how you would scheme around a qb with less that ideal arm strength and not being able to stand tall in the pocket? How about when he gets up there in the years do you think he will be an elite qb when whatever physical skills he has diminish..I'm interested to know or all you can do is post links and poo all day

 

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1 minute ago, 332nd said:

The silence could very well be the fact that people are tired of your shtick.

At this point you're coming off the folk that hated the Cam pick. Most people here have seen that before, & have a pretty good idea how it'll play out.

Every bad game, (& they will happen) you come off like you'll be front & center screaming I told you so. 

Every good game, (& they will happen) you come off like you'll be busy on those days.

If Young gets injured & Stroud wrecks the league. You come off like you'll ride that for the next 30 years.

If Stroud gets injured & Young wrecks the league, you come off like you'll be grateful that others will be too happy to care about this poo & you get to be a fan.

As for scheming around his deficiencies,  I wouldn't.

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21 minutes ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

@ncfan @poundaway 

Care to share how you would scheme around a qb with less that ideal arm strength and not being able to stand tall in the pocket? How about when he gets up there in the years do you think he will be an elite qb when whatever physical skills he has diminish..I'm interested to know or all you can do is post links and poo all day

Less than ideal arm strength is a stretch.   He has more than enough arm strength. Not a cannon like Allen and Herbert.  But Strong enough.  It’s stronger than Tua’s.

And how to scheme it when he gets older?  Probably like what Sean Payton did with Bree’s his last 5+ years.  Short quick pass game

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2 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Less than ideal arm strength is a stretch.   He has more than enough arm strength. Not a cannon like Allen and Herbert.  But Strong enough.  It’s stronger than Tua’s.

And how to scheme it when he gets older?  Probably like what Sean Payton did with Bree’s his last 5+ years.  Short quick pass game

Thank you nc fan this is all I was looking for. Thursday at 815 I become a fully on board supporter of whoever we pick even...mayo man 

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4 minutes ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

Thank you nc fan this is all I was looking for. Thursday at 815 I become a fully on board supporter of whoever we pick even...mayo man 

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Don’t think you have to worry about Mayo Man.

But would suck if we traded to 1 for him. 

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9 minutes ago, LordOfDaWingz said:

Every poster that hates Bryce are the same posters that wanted the Panthers to win the division this past season for a meaningless playoff appearance. Or thought Matt Corall was a legit NFL starting Qb. Or thought Cam should be called back for the 50th time. 

This is false because I love Bryce and I wanted us to make the playoffs last year.

 

Im questioning you for being a fan of a team yet rooting for them to not make the playoffs. Like bro you should be ashamed of yourself for even posting this.smh

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Relax guys.  The draft is 24 hrs away and it won't matter anymore once the pick is made.  Just pull for whoever we select.  

Watch a Dan Morgan video to help you get through to the Draft.  He was the toughest MLB we ever had.  Not as great as Luke but a beast for sure.  

 

 

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2 hours ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

 

For reference his thoughts on Johnny Football Manziel coming out when he was thought to be a surefire prospect..

Lol, manziel was a sure fire prospect? Only was picked in the first round because the browns owner was persuaded by a homeless man to take him.

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3 minutes ago, Doyle said:

Relax guys.  The draft is 24 hrs away and it won't matter anymore once the pick is made.  Just pull for whoever we select.  

Watch a Dan Morgan video to help you get through to the Draft.  He was the toughest MLB we ever had.  Not as great as Luke but a beast for sure.  

 

 

Might be the weakest highlight reel I have ever seen. No big hits, no big plays. Just a average looking reel.

 

Luke was definitely on another level. 

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