Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Round 5 - The Carolina Panthers Select Jammie Robinson - S - Florida State


rodeo
 Share

Recommended Posts

15 hours ago, mc52beast said:

Can we all admit that picking up CJ has been a disappointment and he needs to move on?

I think he gets one more opportunity under the new staff, i.e. real NFL coaches who have NFL experience and can actually develop players, to see if there is enough worth working with longer term.  But I agree, he will be on a short leash and needs to show something in the next 90 days.  Watching him play, he has the tools but, I’m just not sure he has that burning desire to be successful at this level.

Perversely, the Djax injury may keep CJ around longer than he might otherwise.

  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

With all the safeties we have on the team and the coverage aspect being such a major part of Evero’s scheme, I can’t shake the feeling that if Jammie is a hit that the team might try to flip Chinn for some assets at the trade deadline next season. 
 

A lot will probably depend on how they deploy Chinn when we finally see the defense and where our record is at the time but yeah the emphasis on the safety position makes me think Chinn might be on notice.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, bythenbrs said:

I think he gets one more opportunity under the new staff, i.e. real NFL coaches who have NFL experience and can actually develop players, to see if there is enough worth working with longer term.

Great comment.  I think you can make an argument that coaching is more important in football than any other of the major professional sports. How many time have we've seen players labeled as bust or cut only to see them flourish under the tutelage of another coaching staff.

I'm not sad that either player is gone. But let's be honest. If this current coaching staff was coaching last year's team, I think the Panthers would have won our division with either Mayfield or Darnold playing the majority of the snaps behind center. They would have been able to get the most out of both guys, something that Rhule and Wilks were unable to do.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 hours ago, Soul Rebel said:

This guy has me pumped. Love the connection to Jaycee and the chip he's coming into the league with. It's a healthy chip and I think he's going to compete.

2023 Fifth Round Robinson DB > 2020 Fifth Round Robinson DB

Reminds you of the Kam Chancellor selection in the 2010 draft--the one that formed the foundation for the Seattle Legion of Doom defense.  Earl Thomas (1) and Kam Chancellor (5th round) were taken in 2010.  Richard Sherman was drafted in the fifth round in 2011. 

We have been so focused on offense, we may not have been paying much attention to what has been going on on the defensive side of the ball:  7 Free Agents, 2 Draft picks.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, bythenbrs said:

I think he gets one more opportunity under the new staff, i.e. real NFL coaches who have NFL experience and can actually develop players, to see if there is enough worth working with longer term.  But I agree, he will be on a short leash and needs to show something in the next 90 days.  Watching him play, he has the tools but, I’m just not sure he has that burning desire to be successful at this level.

Perversely, the Djax injury may keep CJ around longer than he might otherwise.

Seems like Evero is a no bs kinda guy. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

46 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Seems like Evero is a no bs kinda guy. 

I agree.  Just not sure how Djax injury will impact what would otherwise be a strictly performance decision.  A new wrinkle that I was not aware of when I made my earlier post, Monday is the deadline to extend the fifth-year option on both Brown and Henderson.  Brown will be extended for sure but Henderson almost assuredly not.  Researching a little deeper, Henderson's contract is structured such that his 2023 contract is fully guaranteed, and he gets paid whether he is cut before or after June 1; there are no cap savings unless he is traded.  Who would take him and his guaranteed salary at this point?  Nada, me thinks.

Given Djax injury and since we are on the hook for his salary in 2023 no matter what (excepting a trade), I think we are stuck with him for 2023.

Edited by bythenbrs
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

I agree.  Just not sure how Djax injury will impact what would otherwise be a strictly performance decision.  A new wrinkle that I was not aware of when I made my earlier post, Monday is the deadline to extend the fifth-year option on both Brown and Henderson.  Brown will be extended for sure but Henderson almost assuredly not.  Researching a little deeper, Henderson's contract is structured such that his 2023 contract is fully guaranteed, and he gets paid whether he is cut before or after June 1; there are no cap savings unless he is traded.  Who would take him and his guaranteed salary at this point?  Nada, me thinks.

Given Djax injury and since we are on the hook for his salary in 2023 no matter what (excepting a trade), I think we are stuck with him for 2023.

Yeah the FA market is not good either, so hopefully he'll show some motivation from this new coaching staff. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, BlackPanther22 said:

With all the safeties we have on the team and the coverage aspect being such a major part of Evero’s scheme, I can’t shake the feeling that if Jammie is a hit that the team might try to flip Chinn for some assets at the trade deadline next season. 
 

A lot will probably depend on how they deploy Chinn when we finally see the defense and where our record is at the time but yeah the emphasis on the safety position makes me think Chinn might be on notice.

The serious lack of ILB's might have Chinn moving up closer to the ball. He's kinda the only guy that can cover TE's, we got a lot of safeties but they're all sub 6'. It was obvious last year it was a waste to have Chinn sitting back at FS so the closer to the ball the better 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah both him and DJ Johnson were 3rd-4th round projections depending on the site/analyst pre-draft. Their selections may be a surprise to some, but they are warranted. 

With Jammie, I think there could be something here.  DBs can come out of these later rounds more than other positions. Time will tell.  I personally think he's a promising late rounder.  This dude is fun to watch.

Let us not forget, Evero was coaching the Rams secondary for nearly 7 years.  The guy knows his DBs and likes the guys that can play the "star" role.  That's also why I love Brugler's Pitre comp.  

 

 

  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

55 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

The serious lack of ILB's might have Chinn moving up closer to the ball. He's kinda the only guy that can cover TE's, we got a lot of safeties but they're all sub 6'. It was obvious last year it was a waste to have Chinn sitting back at FS so the closer to the ball the better 

Yeah I was wanting To’oTo’o or Sewell late for depth at ILB.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • LOL... Yet again proving you can't look below anything than what you see on the surface Mock drafts ARE NOT draft grades They are what people think will happen.  They are mocking teams taking QB's in the top 5 of the draft because that's just historically how drafts go regardless of the grades on the QBs.  Almost every draft expert, even those mocking QB's going high, have said time and time again that none of these QB's actually grade out as those type of picks. This is again, where I say you don't like to actually read what I have to say, because I already explained it. 2022 the exact same thing happened, mock drafts had guys like Pickett and Willis going in the Top 5 because that's just what teams usually do, but GM's listened to their prospect grades and knew they weren't worth taking that high, so they didn't. It's not to say QB's won't go that high this year, but it's to say that they aren't graded out as elite QB prospects.  Mock drafts 
    • Have you seen the mock drafts lately?   Most of them have us taking a QB. Just because you aren't high on these QBs doesn't mean the Panthers or other teams aren't.   If you want me to be real I just think you a Tmac homer and all you care about is us drafting him. It's why you get so defensive when people mention other prospects.   Be open to other people's ideas. Nobody in this thread is saying anything bad about your boy Tmac. 
    • Oh good lord Interest doesn't mean interest in making a bad trade to take the player, that's why I had such a long post, to accurately describe why those are two different things, but you don't like to listen to that stuff.  Being interested in a player doesn't live in a vacuum. It's very simple... there isn't a #1 draft pick type of grade on any of these QB's, if there was, we'd just take them.  You can't bluff a pick everyone knows you won't make, and trying to trade the pick is the CLEAR signal that you're not taking the QB. Just because the Raiders would have interest, doesn't mean they're going to bail us out of a situation we don't want to be in, they'd be smart about it and just sit put, let us take a non QB as we'd be telling the world we're not taking one just by trying to trade the pick, and then they'd take him at #2 (either with their own pick or by trading less to get that one). Oh, and your point of "if nobody is willing to make the trade, you obviously just take the best QB" is quite literally the dumbest thing I've ever read on here. If nobody is willing to trade up to take the QB, then it's OBVIOUS that the QB isn't worth taking with that pick, so OBVIOUSLY taking the best QB there is just OBVIOUSLY stupid and a bad pick. The moral of it is if there is a QB worth taking, we're taking them and not making the trade.  If there isn't a QB worth taking there, nobody is trading up to #1 to take one, we just showed the NFL how bad of an idea that is 2 years ago, it's really not hard to see. You keep making up this mythical situation where there is a QB who has shown to be worth trading up to #1 for and we'll be able to leverage that into a trade.  But we're the most QB needy team in the league, if we end up with the #1 pick, either we are taking a QB #1 or no QB is going #1 unless we get VERY lucky and two teams in the Top 5 fall in love with one prospect and we can play them off each other and fleece one of them. But again, I can't see that happening, as if there was a QB worthy of that, we're just taking him ourselves.
×
×
  • Create New...