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Christian McCaffrey calls trade to 49ers “the best thing that ever happened to me”


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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Asking any player to compensate for the team being lousy at quarterback is a stretch.

Using that standard to measure their value is completely wrong.

Can you win without a guy like that? If your team is good enough, sure. Can you lose with a guy like that? If your team is bad enough, again yes, and the past few years Panthers are proof of that.

Bottom Line: Using the quality of the overall team to measure any single player's value is invalid, same as trying to make wins and losses a quarterback stat.

But the simple fact is that any team who has him is a better team because of it. Denying that is kind of silly.

Well the difference between him playing and not playing had pretty limited impact on W/L during his entire Panthers career. I have posted that stat multiple times.

That's kind of the point about elite RB's, though. They rarely have a remarkable W/L impact on any modern NFL franchise.

Denying that is kind of silly.

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48 minutes ago, poundaway said:

lol Didn't say that.   The CMC trade definitely contributed to it.
 

Say what you want, the biggest pick we got for CMC went to pay for Young.

 

CMC’s trade didn’t matter in terms of Young, we had plenty of picks including our 50% more valuable 2nd. CMC’s 2nd was a dime of value out of the dollar we gave up for Bryce. We still easily make the Young deal regardless of CMC.

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

Well the difference between him playing and not playing had pretty limited impact on W/L during his entire Panthers career. I have posted that stat multiple times.

That's kind of the point about elite RB's, though. They rarely have a remarkable W/L impact on any modern NFL franchise.

Denying that is kind of silly.

Putting that on him (or any individual player) is invalid, especially under Rhule.

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18 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

CMC’s trade didn’t matter in terms of Young, we had plenty of picks including our 50% more valuable 2nd. CMC’s 2nd was a dime of value out of the dollar we gave up for Bryce. We still easily make the Young deal regardless of CMC.

LOL

That 2nd was more than 10% of the trade value. Apparently you do not  understand that future picks are worth LESS than current picks due to uncertainty and the value of time.  You have to subtract a round for each out year.  Most people believe DJ Moore saved us a 2025 1st, which would be equiv to a 3rd rounder this year, the 24 1st is worth a 2nd this year.  The 25 2nd is worth a 4th this year. 

So in order to swap 1sts this year, the Bears charged us draft points worth  two 2nds, a 3rd and 4th this year.  CMC's second was not 10% by any stretch.

I do agree we could have given up Mingo to do the trade, but we didn't.  We used CMC's second.

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26 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Putting that on him (or any individual player) is invalid, especially under Rhule.

That would be fine but he played under two head coaches here with similar results. 

This stat pretty much holds up for most elite NFL RB's, BTW. This isn't new information. There are ample articles about spending money on RB's and the overall results. Some going back more than a decade. This story has already been written before CMC ever stepped on an NFL field as a player. 

It's not a critical position in the modern NFL. It's definitely not a position that most can afford to spend top 5 money on. Hence why the "luxury" post was just plain correct. 

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8 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That would be fine but he played under two head coaches here with similar results. 

This stat pretty much holds up for most elite NFL RB's, BTW. This isn't new information. There are ample articles about spending money on RB's and the overall results. Some going back more than a decade. This story has already been written before CMC ever stepped on an NFL field as a player. 

It's not a critical position in the modern NFL. It's definitely not a position that most can afford to spend top 5 money on. Hence why the "luxury" post was just plain correct. 

Outside of one season, our win-loss record under Cam Newton's leadership was nothing to brag about. Is that on Newton?

And none of what I'm discussing has to do with spending money. That's already acknowledged. I'm talking strictly about McCaffrey as a player.

Suggesting that this or any team isn't better with someone like him on the roster is ludicrous.

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23 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Outside of one season, our win-loss record under Cam Newton's leadership was nothing to brag about. Is that on Newton?

And none of what I'm discussing has to do with spending money. That's already acknowledged. I'm talking strictly about McCaffrey as a player.

Suggesting that this or any team isn't better with someone like him on the roster is ludicrous.

Then why did you dispute the "luxury" quote if it isn't about money? What about that post didn't make the money aspect extremely clear?

Are you having a completely different argument with someone else?

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14 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Then why did you dispute the "luxury" quote if it isn't about money? What about that post didn't make the money aspect extremely clear?

Are you having a completely different argument with someone else?

Look back at Rayzor's response. He got it.

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Then why did you dispute the "luxury" quote if it isn't about money? What about that post didn't make the money aspect extremely clear?

Are you having a completely different argument with someone else?

Fan boys argue on behalf of their guys.

 

I say that as someone who was a fan boy of our last franchise QB.

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