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57 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Here's where you went wrong...

If we had been playing like Super Bowl contenders these first few weeks everybody would be on here glowing and raving about how good we are! So what's wrong with questioning how bad we have looked? 

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2 minutes ago, scratched said:

If we had been playing like Super Bowl contenders these first few weeks everybody would be on here glowing and raving about how good we are! So what's wrong with questioning how bad we have looked? 

Because it’s abnormal for a rookie QB to play at an elite level in their first preseason games. It’s normal for them to struggle or just look below average. 

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Because it’s abnormal for a rookie QB to play at an elite level in their first preseason games. It’s normal for them to struggle or just look below average. 

I've not said anything about QB play specifically. I don't think QB has been the issue. I clearly said I believe we should have shored up some other positions before drafting QB. We didn't even get a chance to see what Corral was. And truly, he hasn't been that bad this camp. 

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1 hour ago, therealmjl said:

I mean literally everyone was glowing over our line play down the stretch last season and we were all propping it up as our strongest position group going into this season so what I'm saying is pump the brakes.

You essentially go from trying to hide your QB to trying to groom your #1 overall pick that the O will go through.  OL has a different job. A harder job. They don't want to hide Bryce Young. 

a run heavy scheme (vs a lot of bad run defense) and trying to make the game not about your QB isn't really an ideal scenario to really judge how good an OL is in today's NFL. 

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25 minutes ago, scratched said:

If we had been playing like Super Bowl contenders these first few weeks everybody would be on here glowing and raving about how good we are! So what's wrong with questioning how bad we have looked? 

Raving about great preseason games would have been equally silly.

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29 minutes ago, scratched said:

If we had been playing like Super Bowl contenders these first few weeks everybody would be on here glowing and raving about how good we are! So what's wrong with questioning how bad we have looked? 

No they wouldn’t. Except for the few fans who think the preseason actually is a way to gauge the season. 
 

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7 minutes ago, CRA said:

You essentially go from trying to hide your QB to trying to groom your #1 overall pick that the O will go through.  OL has a different job. A harder job. They don't want to hide Bryce Young. 

a run heavy scheme (vs a lot of bad run defense) and trying to make the game not about your QB isn't really an ideal scenario to really judge how good an OL is in today's NFL. 

good point

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8 minutes ago, scratched said:

I've not said anything about QB play specifically. I don't think QB has been the issue. I clearly said I believe we should have shored up some other positions before drafting QB. We didn't even get a chance to see what Corral was. And truly, he hasn't been that bad this camp. 

As someone who likes a lot of the tools in Corrals tool chest, his injury made him too much of a question mark for us to not address the position this off-season. 
 

No matter what staff came in, they couldn’t rely on a rookie who missed his rookie year, to be the cornerstone or future of the team.

So they picked their favorite QB in the draft to address that hole (a gaping black hole).
 

That being said, Young was drafted TO BE the franchise QB, but that’s not the same statement as, Young IS the franchise QB. 
 

We still don’t have that until he proves to be that. 
 

So Corral should remain on the team as an option until Young proves he IS a franchise QB. 
 

And if he doesn’t? Maybe Corral can prove to be that. 
 

But we are absolutely dead in the water until QB is fixed. I’m rooting for Young to be that fix.  

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3 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

As someone who likes a lot of the tools in Corrals tool chest, his injury made him too much of a question mark for us to not address the position this off-season. 
 

No matter what staff came in, they couldn’t rely on a rookie who missed his rookie year, to be the cornerstone or future of the team.

So they picked their favorite QB in the draft to address that hole (a gaping black hole).
 

That being said, Young was drafted TO BE the franchise QB, but that’s not the same statement as, Young IS the franchise QB. 
 

We still don’t have that until he proves to be that. 
 

So Corral should remain on the team as an option until Young proves he IS a franchise QB. 
 

And if he doesn’t? Maybe Corral can prove to be that. 
 

But we are absolutely dead in the water until QB is fixed. I’m rooting for Young to be that fix.  

Cousins looked pretty stupid in Washington behind RGIII.  Until it wasn't.  I mean, you do have a point there. 

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8 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

As someone who likes a lot of the tools in Corrals tool chest, his injury made him too much of a question mark for us to not address the position this off-season. 
 

No matter what staff came in, they couldn’t rely on a rookie who missed his rookie year, to be the cornerstone or future of the team.

So they picked their favorite QB in the draft to address that hole (a gaping black hole).
 

That being said, Young was drafted TO BE the franchise QB, but that’s not the same statement as, Young IS the franchise QB. 
 

We still don’t have that until he proves to be that. 
 

So Corral should remain on the team as an option until Young proves he IS a franchise QB. 
 

And if he doesn’t? Maybe Corral can prove to be that. 
 

But we are absolutely dead in the water until QB is fixed. I’m rooting for Young to be that fix.  

Well said. Corral is a cheap developmental QB who has some potential.  Best case scenario is they both turn out great and we flip the lesser for some good picks. 

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