Bosa deal done. Burns, are you next?

[SmittysLawnGuy]

You're supposed to get a break when being on a rookie QB salary, not give all of the rest of that to one guy who has deficiencies.

[SmittysLawnGuy]

28 at 5 years, big guarantee. Take it or fug off

[SmittysLawnGuy]

Hope you read this thread Fitts, huddle knows what's up!

Edited September 7, 2023 by SmittysLawnGuy

[d-dave]

5 minutes ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

And for all you idiots who say it's not your money why do you care let's break it down for you. If I have $10 to give out in my neighborhood football league and give $9 to the best one, where do you think players ranked 2-10 are going? Somewhere else not to share $1 Sorry I had to say that, so many buffoons here saying why do you care, its not your money. Totally ignorant to how this plays out.

 

I disagree.  I do not pay any Carolina Panthers salary?  That's Tepper's money.  We buy Panthers gear, go to games, concerts, watch TV, etc - and it still get's funneled to Dave Tepper.  Since he bought the team, his wealth has increased by $4 BILLION.  

The salary cap isn't a fantasy draft.  It's not our money, the cap is an easily manipulated myth.  Look at the Saints, the poster child for cap manipulation.  "Oh no, they have all this dead cap money!" But they still are able to keep players, over pay them, and add more.  

If YOU or I were he GM/Owner who wrote checks, then I'd be much more concerned with the money issue.  I'm not.  I'm just a fan.  It's up to the team to make the best decisions.  They made this one when they didn't trade Burns to the Rams - we all knew he was going to get paid.  Now that Bosa's deal is done, the market has been set, and it's time to sign Burns to his MEGA deal.

[hepcat]

28 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Fitt fuged up.  Clear as day now.   

Yea this might have been his biggest f-up. Burns is not worth what the Rams wanted to trade for him and he’s not worth the contract they’re going to have to give him. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

5 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Yea this might have been his biggest f-up. Burns is not worth what the Rams wanted to trade for him and he’s not worth the contract they’re going to have to give him. 

Those picks are not a guarantee either.

 

Man it's sad the way y'all feel about Burns as a player. You don't know what you have until it's gone.

[mrcompletely11]

11 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Yea this might have been his biggest f-up. Burns is not worth what the Rams wanted to trade for him and he’s not worth the contract they’re going to have to give him. 

2 top 10 picks with potential top 5

 

Rams gonna suck for a while

[therealmjl]

35 minutes ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

28 at 5 years, big guarantee. Take it or fug off

this

and we're still slightly overpaying even at that number

Edited September 7, 2023 by therealmjl

[carpanfan96]

Lots are comparing to recent contracts and you can't do that anymore after Bosa. 

 

Watt, Bosa (both), Garrett, Parsons are all gonna be making 34-38m in a 1-2 years. 

29.5-30m is gonna be what that second tier of pass rushers are going to make now that Bosa has reset the market for edge players. 

 

Burns is clearly in that 2nd group. 

[gofightwin]

Here is what I am showing if I am Fitt:

In Bosa's 9 playoff games: 8 sacks, 9 TFL, 34 tackles, 2 forced fumbles and fumble recovery...that' a whole season of stats of Burns in half the time, in the playoffs. 

Not only does Bosa put up stats, he steps it up a notch in must win payoff games.

Big time players show up in big time games. Not just against bad O Lines.

[CRA]

31 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Lots are comparing to recent contracts and you can't do that anymore after Bosa. 

 

Watt, Bosa (both), Garrett, Parsons are all gonna be making 34-38m in a 1-2 years. 

29.5-30m is gonna be what that second tier of pass rushers are going to make now that Bosa has reset the market for edge players. 

 

Burns is clearly in that 2nd group. 

There is a 40-60 million guaranteed tier.....and there is a 100 million tier.  Burns is in the 40-60 million tier.  You can even let him reset the top of it like Bosa just did with his tier. 

But Burns isn't worth 100+ guaranteed.   He isn't the complete and dominant player like those that belong there. 

and folks really need to talk about guranteed and not average per year.  Guaranteed is what counts, the rest if window dressing. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

There is a 40-60 million guaranteed tier.....and there is a 100 million tier.  Burns is in the 40-60 million tier.  You can even let him reset the top of it like Bosa just did with his tier. 

But Burns isn't worth 100+ guaranteed.   He isn't the complete and dominant player like those that belong there. 

and folks really need to talk about guranteed and not average per year.  Guaranteed is what counts, the rest if window dressing. 

Let it go bro.

 

Burns was worth 40-60 guaranteed 5 years ago.

 

This is 2023 these contracts are only going to get bigger. Just accept the new market. It's not going to kill us to give Burns 100mil guaranteed.

[CRA]

40 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Lots are comparing to recent contracts and you can't do that anymore after Bosa. 

 

Watt, Bosa (both), Garrett, Parsons are all gonna be making 34-38m in a 1-2 years. 

29.5-30m is gonna be what that second tier of pass rushers are going to make now that Bosa has reset the market for edge players. 

 

Burns is clearly in that 2nd group. 

the 100 million dollar guaranteed tier had already been established.  Bosa didn't just create it. Burns isn't in it. 

and Chubb, Von Miller, Reddick, etc. were all signed to their deals while that upper tier was being established too.  They didn't fit in it. 

[PappyMay]

Everyone saying we dont need to pay him what's the alternative at this point? The Rams trade is gone. Try to trade him for a first?

Biggest younger OLB names this year are Josh Allen, Rashan Gary, and Montez Sweat. I'm sure the first 2 will be paid over 20 a year.