Report: Burns and mid season trade

[joemac]

2 hours ago, panfanman said:

The title of the article I think may be misleading.  Burns asked about mid season trade.  That could be interpreted 3 different ways and certainly not clear.

 

1) Did he ask the organization about being traded.

2) Did the organization ask if he wanted to be traded.

3) A reporter asked him about the possibility of it happening.

 

I'm thinking my 3rd interpretation and someone is trying to make something out of nothing.  Poor writing and reporting or done on purpose?  Click bait?  IDK

 

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/17/panthers-brian-burns-saturday-trade-possibility-contract-extension-week-2/

I bet it was David Newton who asked that, wasn’t it?

[PappyMay]

10 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

You're looking at it in terms of absolutes.  

I think there are VERY few people here who actually want to trade him in general, I know I sure as hell don't.  But when it is very possibly the decision between trading him or paying him $35 million a season, with what this team still needs, I don't think we can pay him that.

 I'm 100% on board with giving him $28-30 million to keep him, he's that good of a player.  And honestly, in a vacuum, I probably wouldn't be against paying him that $35 a year either.

But when the alternative to paying the $35 would be to get 2 firsts (yes, someone will still give us that, even if they end up being picks in the 20's) that can get us good talent on cheap deals.  And then also getting to use that $35 a year to go sign say, a $20/year WR and a $15/year pass rusher, on top of the firsts, then I think that's a hard thing to ignore.

Your point of "filling in the pieces" is correct, the problem is that it will be very hard to fill in those pieces if we have to make Burns the highest paid defensive player in league history.

This one is 100% on Fitterer for not paying him before the season started, as that was a deal that could have been done at $28-30 a year, for sure.  But he bluffed a hand he didn't have and Burns called him on it and very well may put up video game numbers this year.

I agree with this take, I'd love to resign him but at this point if we can get picks and use the money I'm Ok with it. Imagine If we used that 35mil for Tee Higgins and to resign Luvu. Still would have the picks and another $35 more million to replace Deshawn Williams, Chinn, and CJ Henderson. First Choice is resign like 4 years 120millin 85 guaranteed or something but if cant work it out may as well move on.

[pantherclaw]

I really wish people would learn to read. 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

We'll never come to an agreement on pay with him. He won't be a Panther in 2024.

[kungfoodude]

9 hours ago, Camp Fodder said:

You mean we haven’t already realized this?

I mean, very, very, very obviously we haven't. 

[OldhamA]

11 hours ago, Jmac said:

WTF....Just keep trading our best players and we will have a team full of JAG's. Not going to win anything like that.

Keep a core group of very good players and fill in the pieces. It's not rocket science.

Too late.

[tukafan21]

Lions lost a pass rusher today while their WRs are looking pretty good.

How about Burns for Jameson Williams, 2024 1st, and a 2025 2nd?

I doubt the Lions will trade Williams and that could be a tad too much for them to do anyways (maybe a 3rd instead of the other 2nd would work more realistically), but pairing Burns with Hutchinson would give them an insane pass rush.

Edited September 18, 2023 by tukafan21

[AceMan]

15 hours ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

We'll never come to an agreement on pay with him. He won't be a Panther in 2024.

^^^This.

Better to accept this now rather than later.  This is Fitterer's "Gettleman/Matt Kalil signing" moment. Ironic because Fitterer won't sign Burns.

[45catfan]

15 hours ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

We'll never come to an agreement on pay with him. He won't be a Panther in 2024.

If that's the consensus between his camp and the Panthers, a mid-season trade makes sense.  Better to get something rather than nothing.  We may not get the haul that the Rams were offering us, but if we can at least recoup one first rounder, preferably next year's when we lack one, that's nothing to sneeze at.