Run the Ball Reich

[CPcavedweller]

The 2nd Reich has not gotten off to a good start, and at this rate it looks like it will end in flames if there is no improvement, given Teppers track record of patience. Oddly enough, since Tepper began his ownership, this is the worst this team has looked, albeit through two weeks.

That said, what worked last year after Rhule was let go? Wilks came in and immediately put in practice what Rhule said he wanted, "run the ball". We went from throwing 40 times a game to running 40 times a game and going play action off of that. Why? It takes pressure off of our poor pass blocking offensive line and our receivers who are probably bottom 4th in the league, as a group.

We had the same issue last year, every QB looked lost when they played, and then Wilks comes in, Darnold comes back, and it's like the Panthers are an NFL team again. That worked because we relied on the run to open the pass. Under center formations are easier to run off of and present more versatility.

19 rushes total with only 10 coming from your $24 million running back isn't going to win games Reich. Get it together.

Flame away.

[LinvilleGorge]

The entire opposing D is within 10 yards of the LOS most plays. We had a 3rd and 9 last night and the Saints had 9 men on the LOS and the safeties were standing at the first down sticks. Until we can create some sort of down field threat life is going to be very difficult on offense. Defenses are just keying on the run and short passing game because that's all we've been able to execute so far.

[Daddy_Uncle]

Wish we had a bug phyiscal running back

 

[4Corners]

Reich and Sanders are both terrible 

[Ricky Spanish]

Receivers can't get open, the secondary doesn't have to work hard to cover them, so they can stack the box and take away the run. 

Also, just ramming it up the gut every time didn't help either

[CPcavedweller]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The entire opposing D is within 10 yards of the LOS most plays. We had a 3rd and 9 last night and the Saints had 9 men on the LOS and the safeties were standing at the first down sticks. Until we can create some sort of down field threat life is going to be very difficult on offense. Defenses are just keying on the run and short passing game because that's all we've been able to execute so far.

So you go heavy sets, counters, change the formations, etc. until you get an unbalanced look you like to run out of. Then you hit them on Play action down the field a few times put of the same looks.

They won't keep 9 men in the box long if you can run and throw out of the same look. The problem with running out of the shotgun is that you're not going to create many advantages in leverage, and the defense can take defenders out of the box. Then when you are either throwing a screen or running out of a single back look, they know what to key on. We need a true, under center play action downfield passing game. 

As of now, it's all too predictable.

[CPcavedweller]

Just now, Ricky Spanish said:

Receivers can't get open, the secondary doesn't have to work hard to cover them, so they can stack the box and take away the run. 

Also, just ramming it up the gut every time didn't help either

Because they will "ram it up the gut" on 1st and 2nd down, then throw out of the shotgun. You have to mix up play calls out of the same formations to keep the defense off of their mark, similar to what allowed Sam to really thrive in 2022. 

You don't run out of an under center look and then go shotgun to throw every time like we saw. There is zero flow to play calling right now and it's like Reich is shooting from the hip. They need to get Bryce comfortable with running the pass game and run game from under center.

 

[TLGPanthersFan]

I wish people would stop referencing Darnold last year like he had some come to Jesus moment with Wilks. 
Any person with a lick of sense would see that Wilks and co did everything they could to make Darnold not a factor because they couldn’t trust him. 
Also the Saints game. 

[WhoKnows]

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The entire opposing D is within 10 yards of the LOS most plays. We had a 3rd and 9 last night and the Saints had 9 men on the LOS and the safeties were standing at the first down sticks. Until we can create some sort of down field threat life is going to be very difficult on offense. Defenses are just keying on the run and short passing game because that's all we've been able to execute so far.

Reminds me of our 1-7 finish to 2018 when opponents realize Cam’s arm was shot that year and he couldn’t throw it deep.

[Khyber53]

Sanders needs to be the second string RB. I think we're seeing why the Eagles let him go. There must not have been any tread left on the tires.

Chuba should be starting right now while we look for someone else.

Trading away CMC sure looks like yet another chump move we've made. He sure would be helping right now.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, WhoKnows said:

Reminds me of our 1-7 finish to 2018 when opponents realize Cam’s arm was shot that year and he couldn’t throw it deep.

I couldn't help but think last night watching Bryce throw that god this looks like Cam after his shoulder fell apart.

[WhoKnows]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I couldn't help but think last night watching Bryce throw that god this looks like Cam after his shoulder fell apart.

Which is not a good thing IMHO. I know our WRs are bad, but almost every deeper throw just seems way off.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, WhoKnows said:

Which is not a good thing IMHO. I know our WRs are bad, but almost every deeper throw just seems way off.

I think it's because every time he's tried to fit the ball in its either picked or nearly picked. So now he's tried to start floating them in and is choosing to miss safe if he's gonna miss. Trying to float those balls into traffic at this level requires perfect accuracy. There's just no room for error at all. Bryce is going to need to have an Einstein level football brain because he's working with some really physical limitations. He was a great college player but he might be a coach at the NFL level. 

[NJPanthers89]

Reich wasnt the first choice, he was the only one who wanted this job.  Ben Johnson and Sean Payton laughed at us.  They knew this was a dead end job.