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Predict Young’s stat line Sunday

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6 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

We took the wrong QB if we want to be a run based team, I don't think Reich wants to be a run based team either, he wants to air it out.

Bryce's biggest asset is supposed to be his brain and reading defenses, you don't put that type of QB into a run based offense where, they belong in a pass based offense to read where the holes in the defense will be and to pick them apart.

If you want to be a run based team, you don't trade up as high and you draft AR.

 

Bryce is still a rookie QB.  About to make his 3rd start.  Seattle isn’t a blueprint.  Andy Dalton has played for a billion years and that was the most he had ever attempted in a game.   That’s how you lose.   Especially , when your OL is allowing that type pressure.  Pass that much while allowing that type pressure is a recipe for failure.  Dalton and us got lucky it didn’t go very poorly.  Because that’s what passing that much behind a OL that bad is setting up. 

Franks teams have always run the ball.   That’s not saying we should be doing what Wilks did here 

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12 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

I would like to see over 200 passing yards before our final drive, 60%+ completion and (most importantly) 6.0+ YPA.  

If he's floating around 4-5.5 YPA, I won't be a happy camper.

Yes this is a key indicator, he also needs to show some deep throws, a deep out or a go route completion or at least a valiant attempt

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Minnesota has maybe the worst pass D overall in the NFL.  They dont really get to the QB much, if at all and they are not stopping the ball once its in the air.  This SHOULD be a get right game for Bryce.  I expect him to put up his best numbers of the year...however we still probably get smoked because we're going to struggle to contain their offense.

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8 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

We took the wrong QB if we want to be a run based team, I don't think Reich wants to be a run based team either, he wants to air it out.

Bryce's biggest asset is supposed to be his brain and reading defenses, you don't put that type of QB into a run based offense where, they belong in a pass based offense to read where the holes in the defense will be and to pick them apart.

If you want to be a run based team, you don't trade up as high and you draft AR.

 

to add to this...

2021 - Colts #2 rush O

2020 - Colts #11 rush O

2019 - Colts #7 rush O

Frank wants to run the ball.  It's a problem that we can't.  Those thinking the plan vs Seattle is a working plan that will lead to good outcomes? If you ask Dalton to do that again, it's probably a trainwreck more times than not.  We got lucky the Seahawks didn't get better outcomes off the pressure.  Can't ask any QB to throw that much behind this OL.   Especially, any rookie QB.  

Also Bryce at Alabama

2022 - Bama averaged 195 rushing yards per game

2021 - Bama averaged 150 rushing yards per game 

Asking a QB to pass 52 a game and giving your running backs 12 rush attempts is a recipe for complete disaster.  For any QB behind this OL.  The pressures we give up invite turnovers.  Especially a rookie QB.   Not only do we have a team that has set Bryce up for failure... we got people encouraging gameplans that encourage the rookie to fail. 

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

to add to this...

2021 - Colts #2 rush O

2020 - Colts #11 rush O

2019 - Colts #7 rush O

Frank wants to run the ball.  It's a problem that we can't.  Those thinking the plan vs Seattle is a working plan that will lead to good outcomes? If you ask Dalton to do that again, it's probably a trainwreck more times than not.  We got lucky the Seahawks didn't get better outcomes off the pressure.  Can't ask any QB to throw that much behind this OL.   Especially, any rookie QB.  

Also Bryce at Alabama

2022 - Bama averaged 195 rushing yards per game

2021 - Bama averaged 150 rushing yards per game 

Asking a QB to pass 52 a game and giving your running backs 12 rush attempts is a recipe for complete disaster.  For any QB behind this OL.  The pressures we give up invite turnovers.  Especially a rookie QB.   Not only do we have a team that has set Bryce up for failure... we got people encouraging gameplans that encourage the rookie to fail. 

Its because Miles Sanders SUCKS.  Dude has no vision, no shifitness, no burst.  Nothing.  Id rather see Blackshear tote the rock 20 times a game than Sanders. 

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3 hours ago, CRA said:

to add to this...

2021 - Colts #2 rush O

2020 - Colts #11 rush O

2019 - Colts #7 rush O

Frank wants to run the ball.  It's a problem that we can't.  Those thinking the plan vs Seattle is a working plan that will lead to good outcomes? If you ask Dalton to do that again, it's probably a trainwreck more times than not.  We got lucky the Seahawks didn't get better outcomes off the pressure.  Can't ask any QB to throw that much behind this OL.   Especially, any rookie QB.  

Also Bryce at Alabama

2022 - Bama averaged 195 rushing yards per game

2021 - Bama averaged 150 rushing yards per game 

Asking a QB to pass 52 a game and giving your running backs 12 rush attempts is a recipe for complete disaster.  For any QB behind this OL.  The pressures we give up invite turnovers.  Especially a rookie QB.   Not only do we have a team that has set Bryce up for failure... we got people encouraging gameplans that encourage the rookie to fail. 

Wait a second, so you’re telling me that teams with Jonathan Taylor had good running games?

SHOCKING

 

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      Why does Bryce get the blame?

      By *FreeFua* · Posted

      And once again I showed you it’s been pretty even. We spent 2nd and 3rd rounders this past draft on edge rushers. No one’s going to sit here and do the math on a draft value chart etc. the only reason I even entertained this was because you said we’ve spent nothing on defense when that simply isn’t true. It also didn’t help we traded our ONLY WR worth a damn to trade up for Bryce soo… And this is kind of the issue with the anti Bryce crowd. This crowd tends to blame him for the trade up. I was team Stroud. Had the panthers not taken Young the only other QB they were going to take was Richardson. So your issue should be with Tepper, Morgan, Fitterer not Bryce.  Bryce is who he is and it was pretty obvious who he was during the draft process. Bryce is slowly developing into that guy most thought he’d be. Give him a WR like Jamo and this offense as a whole would improve greatly.  Anyone thinking he was the next Pat Mahomes or Josh Allen is clearly slow. Bryce was always going to need pieces around him much like EVERY other QB Burrow has Chase and Higgins and they’ve done nothing. After losing in AFC Championship in 2022, Burrow is 17-15. QB’s need a team around them It’s why a Jalen Hurts led Eagles team dismantled a Pat Mahomes led KC team in the SB Imo the QB’s doing the most with the least up until this year have been Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson  This year it’s Drake Maye and Josh Allen  Outside of the 3-5 elite type QB’s I’m not really sure what people expect here. Is Bryce ever going to be in that elite category? Nope. Should we punt on Bryce and keep swinging? I don’t think so. Should we keep swinging while hanging onto Bryce? Yeah but I don’t know what that looks like This team as a whole isn’t very good. Offense and defense and that’s the simple truth  
    • SmokinwithWilly
      Why does Bryce get the blame?

      By SmokinwithWilly · Posted

      I didn't move the goal posts. But anyone who follows football who wants to engage in a rational discussion can't argue that 10 7th round picks are equal to 10 1st rounders in value. The argument has always been we haven't spent as much on defense has we have on offense. Draft picks have value just like salary. We have not spent the same amount of draft pick salary cap on defense that we have on offense since drafting Bryce. It's not even close. Just the 2 1sts we used on Bryce, 2 overall 1sts have a value of 6000. That doesn’t even factor in DJ Moore or the 2 2nds. Bryce cost more than everything we've spent on defense in 6 damn years. 
    • raleigh-panther
      Canales and Darnold

      By raleigh-panther · Posted

      We need to hope this scenario plays our next week he fails with pressure…what that means with Evero, is beyond me
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