Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Panthers actively shopping for a WR


ncfan
 Share

Recommended Posts

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep. Meanwhile, look at our franchise history at WR. It has been a constant struggle for us. Once you get past Smitty, Moose, and DJ who would you even put as our #4 WR in franchise history. It just gets sad after those three. Purely by the numbers Mark Carrier would be our #4 WR with 2547 yards. That's right. The 4th leading WR in franchise history produced barely over 2500 receiving yards for us. Meanwhile you have Fitts acting like he can find WRs on the couch.

I think when the dust eventually settles on fitts tenure and what the team looks like once he leaves, its going to resemble something between Hiroshima and Chernobyl

  • Pie 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

what? haha. DL is one of the hardest units in the league to replace... Trench players are the 2nd most important group outside of the QB. 

 

There is no world where trading Derrick Brown over DJ Moore is a better deal for us.

I would send Burns. The Bears reportedly wanted DJ, Brown, or Burns. I would've tried to make it Burns and reduce the draft pick capital I sent.

  • Pie 9
Link to comment
Share on other sites

This caught my attention in Rapaport’s article too.

 

So if Chinn isn’t even in the plans post Woods injury to the point that they’re shopping for a Safety.

its clear that Chinn isn’t in the future plans for this franchise and will be on another team next year one way or another.

Why don’t they at-least shop him now for something before he walks away for nothing.

IMG_6670.jpeg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Fitts got rid of top RB in the league and one of the top WRs in the league from our roster over the last year.  He took that draft capital and drafted a QB who now struggles due to bad supporting cast around him.  We could of had CMC, DJ Moore and Richardson on offense right now and still have all our draft picks.

  • Pie 1
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Worse than current? Because it's something along the lines of D-Day currently.

With our holes now, people that are F/A's and lack of cap space and draft capital I dont see this puppy getting fixed any time soon.

 

I mean for starters we are going to need 3 corners in the offseason.    God knows how many linebackers, more edge help and who the fug knows what happens in the wide receiver room.  Fitt built this roster thinking he could win in 2023 and fug all else going forward.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, ncfan said:

This caught my attention in Rapaport’s article too.

 

So if Chinn isn’t even in the plans post Woods injury to the point that they’re shopping for a Safety.

its clear that Chinn isn’t in the future plans for this franchise and will be on another team next year one way or another.

Why don’t they at-least shop him now for something before he walks away for nothing.

IMG_6670.jpeg

Fitts is like a blind man looking for his favorite porno movie.  He has no clue wtf he’s doing.  Fitts is now mortgaging the future to save his own ass.  Smells of desperation.  Hurney 2.0 with those Everette Brown like trades.

Edited by Lame Duck
  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Funny how most of you changed your tune. I remember saying we needed a #1 WR in the off-season and people were like nah we cool we got Mingo and TMT.

 

 

I remember loathing trading away all of our talent just to move up and get a “franchise guy” with the understanding he’d have no support to be successful. I was mocked for it. People love to change their tune. 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Funny how most of you changed your tune. I remember saying we needed a #1 WR in the off-season and people were like nah we cool we got Mingo and TMT.

 

 

I hated losing DJ. I just assumed anyone who was pitching this idea that having Chark, AT, Mingo and TMJ for a rookie was better than having DJ was just trying to cope and make it ok in their head because it was a stupid trade to give up your best rookie QB help to draft a rookie QB. If this season was all about a rookie QBs development we should have traded a defender in that deal to the Bears, not a WR. 

  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Varking said:

I hated losing DJ. I just assumed anyone who was pitching this idea that having Chark, AT, Mingo and TMJ for a rookie was better than having DJ was just trying to cope and make it ok in their head because it was a stupid trade to give up your best rookie QB help to draft a rookie QB. If this season was all about a rookie QBs development we should have traded a defender in that deal to the Bears, not a WR. 

Agreed. Imagine trading up for your franchise QB then trading his only weapon on offense.smh

 

They should have traded Burns, now they can't even pay Burns the money he wants. This franchise is ran by some idiots.

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • If we pay Bryce like a franchise QB we're completely and utterly buttfuged.
    • In my view, the realistic expectation for this team to compete will start 2027.  At that time, I think we could be looking at the following (this is HIGHLY speculative):   QB:  You know, Bryce.  I am not a fan, but they don't ask me.  But there is reason for hope--and here it is.  Bryce will be entering his prime.  Since we are likely to pay him, there will be changes that I include throughout this exercise--I realistically speculate on what they are going to do with Bryce and then I realistically speculate on what means in terms of the cap and other positions. Bryce HAS IMPROVED.  The idea is that if you give him more weapons and protection, that will continue.  His career:   At this rate, if his growth continues, by 2027 we should expect nearly 30 TDs and about 12 Interceptions and a Rating of about 98.  His completion percentage should settle at 65-66% or so.  If that happens, you can win with it. The following stats demonstrate how the Panthers will be able to afford it (and re-sign Ickey) My guess is they will require about $60m per year. This is why rookies who can play are important.  It also helps us see the blueprint.  You may disagree, but this is the cruel realities of the salary cap. Robert Hunt:  Cut post June 1 and save $19m.  Who do you replace him with?  Ickey. Tershawn Wharton:  Cutting him saves nearly $15m.  We should all hope to see Aaron Hall (UDFA) make the roster and play well.  Regardless, this is a position we would likely have to address in the next draft. Trevin Moehrig:  Cutting Moehrig as the starting SS saves this team $16.5m.   Ransom will be on year 3 of a cheap rookie deal and should be more than ready to take the reins.  their styles are similar.  Furthermore, FS Wheatley (R, 4th round) will be starting. Taylor Moton:  So much depends on his knee, but I have an idea that he can play another 3 years.  extending him could save the team about $5m per year.  Cutting him outright would save the team about $21m. In the most drastic situation, we have to cut Moton and the other three players mentioned.   We would need (in all likelihood) a starting DT and RT.  It is possible that the DE would be addressed, but Wharton's production (so far) could be equaled by a rookie.  Look for a cut free agent and a 2027 draft pick here.  If you cut Moton, you save $21m, and that would be the only big hole to fill.  Having Ickey at RG gives you some depth at T, and Ickey could be the guy.  T could be pick in the 2027 draft (first round), fwiw.  It saves you $21m while costing you $5m, for example. We get younger, creating a core of Freeling, Hecht, and the RT first rounder in 2027) along with Ekownu (second contract in the $15m range, and Lewis, whose contract would be in the $16m range if not extended.)  The OL cuts (Hunt, Moton) would save $40m.  The OL would get younger and still solid with veterans at G.   By cutting Wharton (no brainer if his play stays the same) and Moehrig (good player--but we have Ransom on a rookie contract who would not be that much of a drop off--if any) in addition to Hunt and Moton, we would save over $70m in cap room. We would be able to give Bryce bag  and we would have enough to re-sign Ickey (if the knee is not too risky) to a Guard contract (probably at a discount, coming off that injury).  Furthermore, we could add a RT in the draft (or a RG if Ickey moves to RT) and that would be the only large hole to fill. Correct my logic if you see issues-- On defense, in addition to the aforementioned, Scott ($2m contract) is out, replaced by a 4th round rookie contract. CB Jackson's contract ($7.8m) expires and he is (possibly) replaced by a rookie contract.  At Edge, patrick Jones II's $10m contract expires and he is likely a reserve, and his role is absorbed by Phillips, Scourton, Princely, and possible an UDFA like Isaiah Smith or a 2027 draft pick.   These productive developmental players over the past 2 drafts will pay huge dividends.  On paper, I see the team getting much younger and possibly better while cutting nearly $100m and reallocating that money to get more production.          
    • If everything played out and that last thing happened, I probably just quit. 
×
×
  • Create New...