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Currently watching Stroud and AR dominate

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mrcompletely11 Grand Master

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1 minute ago, Rags said:

It's Game 3 for Bryce. I'm not saying he's bad, good or anything inbetwen. He's looked solid at times, his pocket presences is...questionable.  And whether it was Andy or Bryce, Adam Thielien was the leading target and leading receiver. 

What makes you say he's regressed?

its game 4, his tiny little ankle wouldnt let him play last week

 

If I need to explain how hes regressed its not worth the conversation

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29 minutes ago, Randolph Panther said:

I just wonder if Bryce is the problem? Maybe this sorry coaching staff is the problem 

Maybe they both are. The QB isn't built/athletic enough for the NFL and his arm strength is questionable, and the HC sh*tty play calling is a drag on the offense.

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20 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

We are stuck,  that doesn't mean he needs to play if isnt improving. 

The Jets had bad luck with Qbs but they sure gave Zach 1 year... so the key is seeing something... like Tua showed enough to warrant. Bryce so far looks like he needs to sit a year and it's depressing  bc the dude was supposed to be the most plug n play qb available  by everyone(media) and a ton of our fans.  Nobody can say Stroud is in a great scenario. His weapons are barely ok and his oline is garbage but he consistently  has shown the ability to go through reads and evade sacks. Ironically that was supposed to be Bryces skill. 

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4 hours ago, App Panther said:

But how? I was told Stroud was half retard and AR more raw than ground beef. 

AR wasn't nearly as raw as people thought he was and you could tell from watching him and the reports of his whiteboard work. 

 

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Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

its game 4, his tiny little ankle wouldnt let him play last week

 

If I need to explain how hes regressed its not worth the conversation

Where you see regression I see a rookie mistake magnified on a bad offense.

I'm not saying he's playing mistake free, I just don't think he's playing an unsustianable brand of football, I just don't think we've put him in a situation to succede.

I blame the GM, the pick SHOULD'VE been Stroud, but the coach didn't go to bat hard enough for his vision. This is a mess, but I really think the org is doing Stroud a dissevervace than him just being trash.

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3 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

AR wasn't nearly as raw as people thought he was and you could tell from watching him and the reports of his whiteboard work. 

 

I saw it when I actually started watching UF games. Like wait a minute... this guy is a lot better passer than I expected. His receivers just drop balls like crazy.

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Just now, Rags said:

Where you see regression I see a rookie mistake magnified on a bad offense.

I'm not saying he's playing mistake free, I just don't think he's playing an unsustianable brand of football, I just don't think we've put him in a situation to succede.

I blame the GM, the pick SHOULD'VE been Stroud, but the coach didn't go to bat hard enough for his vision. This is a mess, but I really think the org is doing Stroud a dissevervace than him just being trash.

when i watch stroud highlights I see confidence,  what I watched today from young was the complete opposite.  Kid is in his own head and is gun shy.  Looks like Clausen, wienke

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16 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

varking and I were leading the charge for AR last spring

I wanted AR even after the trade to 1. He was never going to be at #9. His floor was at #4. Imo he's the best Pro qb of the bunch. Most potential/highest ceiling, highest floor, big and athletic,  can read the field and make all the throws. 

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20 minutes ago, Lurk21 said:

The Jets had bad luck with Qbs but they sure gave Zach 1 year... so the key is seeing something... like Tua showed enough to warrant. Bryce so far looks like he needs to sit a year and it's depressing  bc the dude was supposed to be the most plug n play qb available  by everyone(media) and a ton of our fans.  Nobody can say Stroud is in a great scenario. His weapons are barely ok and his oline is garbage but he consistently  has shown the ability to go through reads and evade sacks. Ironically that was supposed to be Bryces skill. 

Bryce is plug and play if you have weapons and an oline. If you don't then he shouldn't see the field til those two are fixed. Stroud and AR can play with sub optimal players around them because they will take shots and trust the WR and with AR if the line breaks down he can take off and run. 

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