Bryce is going to be a good QB btw...

[carolinanimal]

29 minutes ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

Who is shading Cam? Asking people why they were so adamantly supportive of Cam through some below average performances and losing seasons but are quick to poo on Bryce is a valid question and a weird juxtaposition. If you can’t answer the question, then you are either being intentionally dense or can’t see the irony.  

Because people actually saw cams potential In his first few games. He lit the fan base up and was super charismatic. Bryce young not so much..

[My Goodness My Guinness]

11 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

https://x.com/joshnorris/status/1713739058050978115?s=46&t=W75E23VenL1ei42iX22E5g
 

Bryce hangs in there. Look when he starts his throw. He completes this ball to Thielen who you can see just about to come across the logo. Watch his feet too 

Nah I’m told Pickles made these throws all the time…

Seriously, that’s an A+ throw. “What does Bryce do well?” Seems like accuracy and anticipation? He threw that between 3 guys before AT was even close to being open.

[USDepartmentOfSavagery]

4 minutes ago, carolinanimal said:

Because people actually saw cams potential In his first few games. He lit the fan base up and was super charismatic. Bryce young not so much..

Right. And what supporting cast did Cam have his rookie season? Deangelo Williams, J-Stew, Steve Smith, Olsen, a good offensive line with a stalwart at LT in Gross, and most importantly: an innovative and competent OC in Chud. Cam was set up for success and excelled because of what was around him and his own talent.
 

Bryce does not have the luxury that Cam did. if Bryce had a similar supporting cast, things would be a lot different around here. 

[X-Clown]

30 minutes ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

Right. And what supporting cast did Cam have his rookie season? Deangelo Williams, J-Stew, Steve Smith, Olsen, a good offensive line with a stalwart at LT in Gross, and most importantly: an innovative and competent OC in Chud. Cam was set up for success and excelled because of what was around him and his own talent.
 

Bryce does not have the luxury that Cam did. if Bryce had a similar supporting cast, things would be a lot different around here. 

I think most of it revolves around what expectations were. 2011 team although it had some good pieces, it was after the 2-14 Clausen season where the team actually played worse than their record. While they upgraded the offense, the defense was complete dog poo. 

This year, the front office tried to sell us on the team being good enough that just dropping a QB in would be enough to make this a playoff team after how well they played down the stretch. Then there is the whole trade up and trading away of assets to get there. 

But what people don’t remember is that this board was drenched with people that also complained that Cam just put up stats and doesn’t win games even in his record setting rookie season. As stupid as this sounds now, there were a lot of people spamming the boards and pointing at Andy Dalton making the playoffs his rookie year as evidence that we should have taken a defensive player first and then gotten him later. 
 

[Silent Majority]

2 hours ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

Who is shading Cam? Asking people why they were so adamantly supportive of Cam through some below average performances and losing seasons but are quick to poo on Bryce is a valid question and a weird juxtaposition. If you can’t answer the question, then you are either being intentionally dense or can’t see the irony.  

It is absolutely not a valid question. 

[Silent Majority]

2 hours ago, La Flama Blanca said:

He may end up being good? He's already good... if you actually watch the games you can tell he's going to be an absolute baller

"Good" at what?

[Car123]

57 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

I think most of it revolves around what expectations were. 2011 team although it had some good pieces, it was after the 2-14 Clausen season where the team actually played worse than their record. While they upgraded the offense, the defense was complete dog poo. 

This year, the front office tried to sell us on the team being good enough that just dropping a QB in would be enough to make this a playoff team after how well they played down the stretch. Then there is the whole trade up and trading away of assets to get there. 

But what people don’t remember is that this board was drenched with people that also complained that Cam just put up stats and doesn’t win games even in his record setting rookie season. As stupid as this sounds now, there were a lot of people spamming the boards and pointing at Andy Dalton making the playoffs his rookie year as evidence that we should have taken a defensive player first and then gotten him later. 
 

0 playoff wins Andy Dalton. People are idiots.

[Coheed]

12 minutes ago, Silent Majority said:

"Good" at what?

At playing quarterback?? Lol are you serious? 

[Varking]

He’s got some ways to go but I see progress each week. I’m more curious to see if the upward trajectory continues or if he hits a rookie wall soon. The Houston game will be telling. We have extra time to prep for their defense. 

[Varking]

7 minutes ago, Coheed said:

At playing quarterback?? Lol are you serious? 

He’s not been playing “good” yet. There’s been some good in most games but there’s a lot more average and below average stuff going on right now. He will get there. He’s just not there right now. 

[USDepartmentOfSavagery]

1 hour ago, Silent Majority said:

It is absolutely not a valid question. 

It absolutely is a valid question. 

[frankw]

3 hours ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

I’m a cam supporter. Just weird seeing all of the mental gymnastics to poo on Bryce and defend cam. The logic ain’t logicing. 

I don't think it's even fair to compare the two. Cam was such a rarity for the position when you watched him play you just knew he was going to be special. Even if he was up and down stats wise. The size the physicality the charisma he was a franchise QB pretty much immediately. Now there were people who argued that until they were about to engage in fisticuffs. But anyone with eyes and an unbiased view knew what he was. He has already gone down as arguably the most dominant dual threat QB of the modern era. So many QB's have since or will be drafted have counted him as inspiration.

So yeah all in all any QB drafted first overall would have tough sledding to follow that up. Bryce Young has his work cut out for him. Hopefully we can develop him and not ruin him with these incompetent fools we have surrounded him with.

[thefakemjl]

It’s true

[stratocatter]

20 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

It looks to me like the safety is 30 plus yards back and breaks in on AT once Young is releasing the ball. They also know our OL won’t be able to hold blocks long enough for a deep play to develop. Plus there was a very high chance the ball was going to AT.

I think it is more like, they know that we don’t believe our OL can protect this QB to where we trust neither. 

Edited October 16, 2023 by stratocatter