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I hope David Tepper is aware of a basic truth

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You could have done literally nothing after you fired Matt Rhule…and that version of the Panthers would be significantly better than the team you have today.  

Firing Matt Rhule was the right call.  And you saw that instantly.

Firing Frank will be the right call.   I suspect if you fired Frank and someone did some very basic and obvious fixes you would see a better team even this season.  .  

But you have a hiring problem.  You have a front office problem.  You are part of the problem.  You keep creating worse and worse messes. 

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There is no right way to pick the right GM or coach. 

Tepper stayed the course with Ron.  Yuck.

Tepper picked the flashy college coach.  Bust.

Tepper picked (and paid for) the coach and staff with the most NFL experience.  Bust.

We will either go hot young coordinator next and promote Evero to HC or get a NFL expert "consultant" to pick the next GM like we did with Ernie Accorsi and got Dave Gettlemen. 

We'll hit sooner or later just like every other NFL team.  I hope.

 

 

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Just now, Loyalty4Life said:

There is no right way to pick the right GM or coach. 

Tepper stayed the course with Ron.  Yuck.

Tepper picked the flashy college coach.  Bust.

Tepper picked (and paid for) the coach and staff with the most NFL experience.  Bust.

We will either go hot young coordinator next and promote Evero to HC or get a NFL expert "consultant" to pick the next GM like we did with Ernie Accorsi and got Dave Gettlemen. 

We'll hit sooner or later just like every other NFL team.  I hope.

 

 

Thanks for the update Nicole

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6 minutes ago, ickmule said:

Been a fan since inception and I can’t recall a worse time. Seems there are very few that actually care now. Tepper was the wrong buyer for sure. 

At least in 2010….we had legit super studs rostered up.  So if you fixed the QB issue there was hope. 

In an offensive league, we have depleted our team of weapons. So even if we fix the QB issue we are equipped to do anything.  

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3 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

There is no right way to pick the right GM or coach. 

Tepper stayed the course with Ron.  Yuck.

Tepper picked the flashy college coach.  Bust.

Tepper picked (and paid for) the coach and staff with the most NFL experience.  Bust.

We will either go hot young coordinator next and promote Evero to HC or get a NFL expert "consultant" to pick the next GM like we did with Ernie Accorsi and got Dave Gettlemen. 

We'll hit sooner or later just like every other NFL team.  I hope.

 

 

Issue is we aren’t just missing on coaches and trying again.

while we are missing on coaches, we are also depleting this team of talent.  I can’t think of a time where the talent around the QB was this weak.   It’s an offensive league and they purged us of our talent and bragged about how some how Bryce Young doesn’t and wouldn’t need it. 

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