OL PFFs grades are out. *Warning for the weak stomach*

[Harbingers]

25 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

I’d say our issue is coaching.  Not sure how our OL went from top OL in NFL to dead last with the same people.  I know we switched from man to zone because that’s what Reich wanted.

I miss Ryan. He may have not been that agile at the Panthers point in his career but god damn. If that dude couldn’t read a defense, oh man. 
 

That predictable snap count by us. Fug. Bryce shouldn’t be correcting OL and dealing with the play. Our OL should have had their own caller. And should. 
 

If you don’t win in the trenches you don’t win football. 

Edited November 20, 2023 by Harbingers

[jimfear]

Fitty needs to send Dave Doeren a thank you note when Tepper eventually fires him. That NCSU left side of the line is awful.

[Navy_football]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

Tommy DeVito was sacked nine times yesterday.

Awesome! I'll watch that game. All sacks aren't solely on the oline. Sometimes QBs are at fault, but that's pretty bad for anyone to work in too. 

[Harbingers]

1 minute ago, jimfear said:

Fitty needs to send Dave Doeren a thank you note when Tepper eventually fires him. That NCSU left side of the line is awful.

They weren’t bad. They aren’t Man ready yet. Man takes a whole, whole lot of practice and studying. 

[Navy_football]

2 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

I miss Ryan. He may have not been that agile at the Panthers point in his career but god damn. If that dude couldn’t read a defense, oh man. 
 

That predictable snap count by us. Fug. Bryce shouldn’t be correcting OL and dealing with the play. Our OL should have had their own caller. And should. 
 

If you don’t win in the trenches you don’t win football. 

Holds true at every level after high school. Not always true in high school and below, but usually is. 

But this ain't even about winning on the line. This is about getting your A$$ whipped all game long. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

Obviously these guys aren’t playing well, but having to play out of the shotgun and pistol and telegraphing our offense as obvious passing plays it not helping.  There is no sense of misdirection by our offensive formations and teams know when we’re passing.  When pass rushers know they can pin their ears back it’s going to be even harder to block.

[jayboogieman]

18 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

Another solid pick by Fitt lol.

But that reaction of the Oline coach during the draft...

[Carl Spackler]

9 minutes ago, frankw said:

Tommy DeVito was sacked nine times yesterday.

His OL graded out even better despite that.

Justin Pugh (45.4)
John Michael Schmitz (51.3)
Ben Bredeson (52.7)
Andrew Thomas (71.1)
Tyre Phillips (62.1)

Average: 56.5

Ikem Ekwonu (56.9)
Chandler Zavala (29.8)
Bradley Bozeman (57.4)
Austin Corbett (38.2)
Taylor Moton (79.4)

Average: 52.3

[frankw]

Just now, Carl Spackler said:

His OL graded out even better despite that.

Justin Pugh (45.4)
John Michael Schmitz (51.3)
Ben Bredeson (52.7)
Andrew Thomas (71.1)
Tyre Phillips (62.1)

Average: 56.5

Ikem Ekwonu (56.9)
Chandler Zavala (29.8)
Bradley Bozeman (57.4)
Austin Corbett (38.2)
Taylor Moton (79.4)

Average: 52.3

They're both poo. But you can't deny the undrafted kid produced despite the circumstances.

[jimfear]

20 minutes ago, AceMan said:

Chandler Zavala or Amini Silatolu?? Which one was better?

 

[Carl Spackler]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

They're both poo. But you can't deny the undrafted kid produced despite the circumstances.

Not at all. I'm just saying the 32nd-best OL, per usual, was this one.

[DJ feed me moore]

26 minutes ago, AceMan said:

Chandler Zavala or Amini Silatolu?? Which one was better?

silatolu managed to poo around for 5-6 years. If we cut zavala tomorrow I dont think he would even get on another teams PS. maybe a futures contract as camp fodder next season and that would be the end of his career.

[Navy_football]

8 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

His OL graded out even better despite that.

Justin Pugh (45.4)
John Michael Schmitz (51.3)
Ben Bredeson (52.7)
Andrew Thomas (71.1)
Tyre Phillips (62.1)

Average: 56.5

Ikem Ekwonu (56.9)
Chandler Zavala (29.8)
Bradley Bozeman (57.4)
Austin Corbett (38.2)
Taylor Moton (79.4)

Average: 52.3

Can you provide pass block grades and hurries, sacks, hits? 

I'm watching the game and alot of those sacks are on Devito. Obviously not all, but so far I can put 2 of 4 on the QB. 

[frankw]

4 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Not at all. I'm just saying the 32nd-best OL, per usual, was this one.

Well at some point you have to ask tough questions like is part of our woes fitting the offense to Bryce Young's strengths. We're forcing everything into one predictable box and it can't all be because Frank Reich is the most incompetent coach in NFL history. When you're this bad you have to assess everything and everyone.