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Never forget how Scott Two Chinn handled the Lamar Jackson opportunity

TheBigKat

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kungfoodude Grand Master

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8 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

Schefty makes valid point

Skepticism of Lamar was fairly high because of the spate of injuries in the two previous seasons. That's a very hefty price tag for a guy that then had questionable durability.

Ironically, it's been other big time signings that can't stay healthy(Watson, Burrow, Murray, Herbert, etc).

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12 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

Schefty makes valid point

And yet still ignores the point entirely that Baltimore would match most any offer. Why waste the time? Back in the day a team could put a poison pill into a contract in this situation, a la Steve Hutchinson, to make a match untenable, but without that there was no way to do a contract that Baltimore wouldn't accept without seemingly destroying a team's own cap.Hell, of Lamar was that annoyed and wanted out then letting him fester with Baltimore might've been seen as a tactic to get them both to actually split, like LeVeon Bell. I daresay also that, on a general level, Watson's on-field performance last year set back the effort for fully-guaranteed contracts as well.

In short, no one has yet proven that there was or was not collusion, but there are plenty of reasons supporting the idea that it was not required to achieve the outcome.

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4 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

could you imagine we kept those two and sent BAL the equivalence of 3 first round picks and fielded that squad with the current D

In fairness, that would be short lived as we couldn't afford CMC's grotesquely large salary, Moore's top 10 WR salary and Lamar's top 5 QB salary WHILE also attempting to keep the likes of Luvu, Burns, Brown, Horn, etc.

The only reason a team like the 49ers can have that embarrassment of riches is that Purdy is literally the NFL equivalent of being free and their best WR(Aiyuk) is still on a rookie deal.

They have literally one more year of this(2024) and that core of Purdy, Aiyuk, Samuel and CMC will have to be split up due to insane cost. 

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7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

In fairness, that would be short lived as we couldn't afford CMC's grotesquely large salary, Moore's top 10 WR salary and Lamar's top 5 QB salary WHILE also attempting to keep the likes of Luvu, Burns, Brown, Horn, etc.

The only reason a team like the 49ers can have that embarrassment of riches is that Purdy is literally the NFL equivalent of being free and their best WR(Aiyuk) is still on a rookie deal.

They have literally one more year of this(2024) and that core of Purdy, Aiyuk, Samuel and CMC will have to be split up due to insane cost. 

Now that I think about this more, the 49ers are going to be VERY interesting to watch in the next couple of offseasons.

Do they keep their high end weapons and let Purdy walk or do they let a couple of CMC/Aiyuk/Deebo walk to afford to pay Purdy?

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8 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

It's amazing how people still refuse to accept that the Lamar thing went down the way it did for two reasons.

First is that no team really wanted to give up the draft capital as well as give out the huge contract for someone who wasn't able to finish the previous two seasons.  

Second and more importantly, it was a poorly kept secret in the league that the Ravens were going to match any deal made to Lamar.  Because of that, nobody wanted to waste their time negotiating a difficult contract with Lamar, just for the Ravens to match it and then not get Lamar.

The Ravens were trying to use another team to deal with the negotiations, when nobody wanted to be their sucker, they finally just got a deal done with him.  It was a win-win for them, either someone else did the deal for them, or they couldn't and it then likely lowered his asking price a tad bit because it made the market for him seem worse.

Ravens are good cause they have a hell of a front office...intelligent.

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