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From a team that almost had the first overall pick in 2023 to the playoffs. Meanwhile, we went from a near playoff appearance (in a bad division) to giving the 1st overall pick of 2024 and a load of assets to the bears with little hope for the near future.

Hurts

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5 minutes ago, Castavar said:

Doesn't make any sense. Go out swinging with your best players out there.

Steichen had a very promising first season but on THE pivotal play of the season he made an absolutely baffling lineup decision. I mean, that guy should've just caught the fuging bk but how do you go into 4th and 1 with the season on the line with your best player on the sidelines? Absolutely baffling. It would've been like us running X Clown with Smitty standing beside John Fox.

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15 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Given the amount of holes, you can pick about any spot minus safety.

Its going to take time aka years. This draft seems top WR heavy right now.

Plus I feel a healthy chirst and colbert along with bounce back moton, boz, and icky.........they are better than this past year showing.... they must be. Just add some better depth. 

My pick is WR, honestly my true pick is BPA/trade alittle backwards for a supreme haul. 

 

Deep QB class, pick best available at 33. 

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Just now, BenjaminBreeg said:

The rookie quarterback CJ Stroud, whom we passed on for Bryce Young, has led his team to its first playoff appearance in five years, and the Texans were arguably the worst team in the NFL only a season before.

What a turnaround! This is what a generational QB can do for a team. 

The one true generational QB in the draft, and us at #1, missed on the pick. Depressing.

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2 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Damn…Stroud took the worst team in the NFL to the playoffs in his first year

That was the best rookie season in NFL history.

Ryans and his staff, about the best 1st year coaching Ive seen in my era. He should be COTY easy. 

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1 minute ago, KSpan said:

Why do you think it automatically means anyone wants Bryce to fail? The two things are not mutually exclusive, and that's really the problem with a lot of rose-colored crew in this fan base right now... things are treated as zero-sum, and it's not. It's just the way it appears based on the season at hand.

Based on the way some fans here talk about Bryce, it would be really hard to conclude that they want him to succeed here.

As far as your zero-sum comment, it works both ways. Just because the Panthers passed on Stroud, it doesn’t mean they are “set back for a decade” or other such comments. 

Admittedly, Stroud should have absolutely been the pick. Bitching and moaning about the fact the Panthers passed on him and making snide comments about the guy who will, at least, be the Panthers’ QB for one more year accomplishes what exactly? That’s what I don’t get. 

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29 minutes ago, Pantha-kun said:

I didnt have many Bryce takes in the off season but I did find this one. Still a pretty salient point. 

Well. Im not "OKAY" with having Bryce right now lol. 

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I also keep my own receipts !!!
I had a few where i was trying to convince myself id be okay with the bryce pick. But most of my takes especially the early ones were spot the fug on

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1 minute ago, weyco2000 said:

Deep QB class, pick best available at 33. 

I mean.....its against all the books to pick a QB.... I feel you must give young another half year min. But if some stud QB happened to fall to the 2nd, I could be talked into that*given it will take years for a rebuild. Plus you could flip dalton for a late pick and after some time trade either byce or 33rd for some draft capital. 

Zona picked rosen(*i believe they traded up for him too*) 10th overall and next year picked murray 1st overall. washington traded up for RGIII and drafted couz in the 4th. Its not too crazy even thought it feels that way. The issue is watching young play.......but the new HC will come with the promise of "fixing" young. 

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Stroud now has over 4100 passing yards in 15 games. Had he not missed two games due to concussion, Stroud would likely have broken Luck's rookie passing record and become the passing leader for this season.

Not too shabby for a guy who allegedly scored very low on the S2 cognition test.

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10 minutes ago, Bama Panther said:

Based on the way some fans here talk about Bryce, it would be really hard to conclude that they want him to succeed here.

As far as your zero-sum comment, it works both ways. Just because the Panthers passed on Stroud, it doesn’t mean they are “set back for a decade” or other such comments. 

Admittedly, Stroud should have absolutely been the pick. Bitching and moaning about the fact the Panthers passed on him and making snide comments about the guy who will, at least, be the Panthers’ QB for one more year accomplishes what exactly? That’s what I don’t get. 

Bryce, right or wrong, is the tangible personnel evidence of Tepper’s franchise failures 

I pray I’m wrong for the franchise, but he sure doesn’t look like he belongs in the NFL, on any level

cmc, DJ, gone, for Minnie Mouse

when a fan goes into each Sunday hoping for participation trophies from a player that cost the franchise dearly, it’s a sad situation…for the player as well

 

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17 minutes ago, Basbear said:

That was the best rookie season in NFL history.

Ryans and his staff, about the best 1st year coaching Ive seen in my era. He should be COTY easy. 

With Young they’re picking first, with Stroud we’re in the playoffs. 

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4 minutes ago, BenjaminBreeg said:

Stroud now has over 4100 passing yards in 15 games. Had he not missed two games due to concussion, Stroud would likely have broken Luck's rookie passing record and become the passing leader for this season.

Not too shabby for a guy who allegedly scored very low on the S2 cognition test.

Had he not missed 2 games he's the MVP of the NFL as a rookie.

 

We screwed up. Just take the L and watch a generational QB make us look foolish for the foreseeable future.

 

Bryce Up Son!

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