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Just how bad was Bryce Young?


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7 minutes ago, CRA said:

This is the one that always actually got me..

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And Burns isn’t exactly what you would call big for a D lineman 

He always mogged in every one!!

 

Is there any pictures that Byce is the tallest male in them??(the ones with tepper dont count)

Can anyone find a couple??

 

 

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3 hours ago, frankw said:

We will hear about coaching the OL and the receivers but even the biggest Panthers homers should have a difficult time sugar coating all this.

At best it's on par with Clausen.

Quite depressing.

Clausen threw three times as many interceptions as he did touchdowns. Pump the goddamn brakes

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13 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

Next let’s do 

just how bad was the o-line

just how bad were the receivers

just how bad was the coaching

just how bad was the play calling

You could copy/paste this post from any comment about Sam Darnold three years ago.

But go off.

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I'd have ZERO problem if they walked away from Bryce. They won't of course. But I'm so confident he won't be elite that I have no issues with him giving it a go elsewhere. It'd be interesting to read what the Bryce Guys say in that respect. Are they so sure Bryce is going to be the next great QB in the NFL we simply have to give him more chances? Are they scared to see him go someplace else and make us regret it?

We are not getting an all-time elite Oline any time soon ... if ever. We are not drafting/signing the best WR corps any time soon. Our next coach can't be elite because the elite coaches already have a job. If Young can't even show one shred of elite gameplay in 16 games, what makes you think he will turn it around next season? Even if he gets somewhat better, he'll just be on Baker Mayfield's level. It's a shame we can't cut bait. 2024 will be another wasted season.

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2 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

The receivers were excellent three years ago. The offensive line was passable. The coaching was trash. 

Doesn’t seem the same. 

I'm talking about before we traded for him.

It is almost verbatim the same rhetoric about his time with the Jets.

If it doesn't seem the same it's because you don't want to see it.

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It really is pointless for all of us to debate this any longer. We will not magically get an elite WR corps. It'll take spot on drafting, trades, and FA signings ... not to mention we also need to do the same with the OLine. We also need to hire THE man at HC and an OC who can put in a great scheme for Bryce. All by 2025 at the LATEST. In other words, it ain't happening ... and the Bryce Guys will always have an excuse. Always.

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1 hour ago, mc52beast said:

Next let’s do 

just how bad was the o-line

just how bad were the receivers

just how bad was the coaching

just how bad was the play calling

Yes, they all sucked just like Bryce. Sucking is not zero-sum, and there was limitless suck to go around this year.

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4 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Thats understandable...but regardless of what happens in the off season Bryce still needs to show some type of improvement next year. We cannot look at evaluations of the draft and FA and make self-determinations that what was done isnt good enough for bryce to succeed. BRYCE STILL NEEDS TO SHOW some type of GROWTH from last season. This cannot become a carousel every year of the roster not being good enough for him.

If Bryce looks like the same player with a better coaching hire and better offensive cast then I will be leading that charge. I think he will be improved. Will it be 4k passing 30 Tds improved? Not likely but a serviceable game manager is what I hope it at the very least it looks like next year. It won't be worth what we traded up for but it'd be a start.

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    • Sometimes its fun to read the threads/posts.  The panthers could literally hire a groundskeeper and we'd have a thread "improving the field for no other reason to prop up Bryce Young".  Apparently no move is ever done to actually make the team better.  All a conspiracy to just focus on Bryce Young. Or suddenly daydreaming and reminiscing about Sam Darnold when he was hated more than Bryce Young.  Its really fun to do a message board search about Darnold during that time period.   Or thinking there is just a tree that grows QB, and you can just easily go up and pluck one.   
    • Yeah okay. We as an organization have been more patient with him than many. And there has been a small parade of guys drafted since he was, also to bad teams, that have passed him. Some have lapped him. As a fan I am out of patience but he gets this year it is out of my hands always has been. I just hope the bar is higher than it has been for him.    FWIW, XL dropped two passes last year. He did do some other bad stuff, just saying. 
    • Except it takes those QB's a few years to develop because they needed to learn the mental side of the game and have it catch up to their physical attributes. Bryce was supposed to be a QB savant who already had a fully developed mental side of the game and that was going to make up for his lack of physical ability.  And his lack of NFL level QB physical traits has been clear as day to anyone who has watched him the last 3 years, mainly, he just doesn't have an NFL arm, he can't zip the ball into tight spaces or throw on a line down the field like is needed at this level.
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