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NFL Wildcard Weekend - Games Thread


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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I mean, the Steelers losing was the least surprising thing ever. The only thing that makes their QB situation less terrible than ours is that they didn't trade a fortune to draft their bust #1 overall.

Their receiver George Pickens will be a monster if he works on his attitude and the Steelers provide him with a QB worth a poo.

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1 minute ago, Ricky Prickles said:

If Bryce is ruined by this past season then he never had it to begin with. This one season should not have ruined him and should have given him so much playing time that he got some development out there and lost some fears to stop playing scared. He is not ruined yet and let's hope next season is a fresh start with a decent coaching staff that can save his career.

True QBs can't be ruined. They figure out how to survive and fight.

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2 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Baker was horrible with us.  He was ok with Cleveland and is decent with Tampa.  Which is why I don't think we can judge Young based on this past season's results.  

You can judge his physical traits. There's a massive difference between watching Baker Mayfield throw a football vs. watching Bryce Young throw a football. I was wrong about Bryce. I thought his arm was just run of the mill NFL below average. After actually seeing him on an NFL field he probably has a bottom 10 NFL arm. Not starter arm. I mean bottom 10 arm on an NFL roster. He has the worst arm of any starter. Mac Jones held that crown prior.

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1 minute ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

True QBs can't be ruined. They figure out how to survive and fight.

I agree. Next season is make or break for ours. He better come out guns blazing and stop playing scared if he wants to make it in the NFL. The size issue with him is rough enough to where he HAS to carry some sort of attitude chip on his shoulder playing angry and wanting to prove them all wrong after this season but I'm not sure if he has enough anger inside and chip on his shoulder fire in him to make that happen.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You can judge his physical traits. There's a massive difference between watching Baker Mayfield throw a football vs. watching Bryce Young throw a football. I was wrong about Bryce. I thought his arm was just run of the mill NFL below average. After actually seeing him on an NFL field he probably has a bottom 10 NFL arm. Not starter arm. I mean bottom 10 arm on an NFL roster.

You are so fuggin ridiculous at this point with these dumb Bryce Young takes.  He has plenty of arm.  He dominates with even a decent team around him.  He was better than any UNC player ever at Bama.  Will sharply remember how you gave up on him

BTW…Baker did nothing here, nothing 

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Everyone gave all the credit for Tampa's recent success to Brady which was frankly always completely ridiculous. They had a stacked D, OL and great receiving group when they added him. He joined an absolutely stacked roster and Arians was honestly a great HC (albeit with a short shelf life in each stop). Enough of those pieces are still there that they are winning a playoff game with baker fuging mayfield and Bowles as HC.

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