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If You Could Choose ANY Head Coach... Who?


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5 hours ago, AggieLean said:

One thing about Tomlin; he’s going to get the best out of the guys he has on the roster. He’d have this crap lineup competing for the NFC South crown

That's where I wonder about all these guys saying Shanahan. That dude has had an embarrassment of talent with the 49ers.

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57 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

The only answer here is Tomlin. 
 

The coach to never have a losing season with a franchise that has never had consecutive winning seasons. 

Yeah, well keep in mind he would also have none of the massive advantages he has there. Tons of talent, a very capable front office and an entire organization that understands what building a success looks like.

Tomlin(or most of these guys) probably don’t look as hot with the equivalent of a meth head playing with tinker toys in comparison to the Steelers situation.

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10 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

That's where I wonder about all these guys saying Shanahan. That dude has had an embarrassment of talent with the 49ers.

They keep bringing in more. They have made mistakes but the good to bad ratio is amazingly great. 

The situation around the HC will always matter. Having that mix of ownership that has learned the hard way and a good GM is how you give a HC a chance to be great. Like you said Tomlin is a good coach but how good could he look here with ragtag talent and an owner who is of Tepper's quality...Well what HC could overcome that every year? None that I see. 

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The coaches with the most proven history of winning are:

  • Belichick, 71: 300 wins, .647 win % 6 Superbowl wins**
  • Reid,65: 258 wins, .641 win % 2 Superbowl wins
  • Tomlin, 51:  173 wins, .633 win % 1 Superbowl win
  • McCarthy, 60:167 wins, .620 win % 1 Superbowl win
  • Payton, 60:160 wins, .620 win % 1 Superbowl win
  • John Harbaugh ,61: 160 wins, .618 win % 1 Superbowl win
  • Carroll, 72: 170 wins, .586 win % 1 Superbowl win

Smaller sample size of wins but still high win %:

  • Lafleur, 44: 56 wins .675 win%
  • Mcdermott,49:  73 wins, .640 win% 
  • Mcvay,37: 70 wins 609 win % 1 Superbowl win
  • Kyle Shanahan,44: 70 wins .557 win %

All of the coaches above minus (Payton) have been with the same team since 2019. Here's how they rank in just the last 5 seasons:

edit: Mccarthy joined the cowboys in 2020

  • Reid 63-20
  • Mcderomott 58-24
  • Lafleur 56-27
  • Harbaugh 56-27
  • Shannahan 54-29
  • Tomlin 48-34-1 (19-15 since Roethlisberger retired)
  • Carroll 48-35
  • McVay 46-37
  • Belichick 41-42 (29-38 since Brady left)
  • Mccarthy 42-25( joined cowboys in 2020, 
  • Payton 42-24 (didn't coach last year) (17-17 without Drew Brees)

Current streak of consecutive winning seasons (defined by as above .500 record)

  • Reid, 11
  • Mcdermott, 5
  • Tomlin, 4, (Never below 8-8 record ever, since he took over in 2007)
  • Shannahan, 3 
  • McCarthy, 3
  • Harbaugh, 2
  • Carroll, 2 (only 1 losing season since 2012, 7-10 in 2021)

Postseason Records

  • Belichick 31-13 6 Superbowl wins (01,03,04,14,16,18) last playoff win was 2016
  • Reid 23-16 2 Superbowl wins (2019,2022) Last playoff win was this year and still in playoffs this year
  • Harbaugh 11-9 1 Superbowl win (2012) last playoff win was after 2020 season
  • Caroll 11-11 1 Superbowl win (2013) last playoff win was after 2019 season
  • McCarthy 11-11: 1 Superbowl win (2010) Last playoff win was after 22 season
  • Payton 9-8 1 Superbowl win (2009) Last playoff win was after 2020 season
  • Tomlin 8-10 1 Superbowl win (2008)- Last playoff win was after 2016  season 
  • McVay 7-4 1 Superbowl win (2021) Last playoff win was after 2021 season
  • Shannahan 6-3 Last playoff win was last year and(1st round bye) still in playoffs this year
  • McDermott 5-5 Last playoff win was this year and still in playoffs this year
  • Lafleur 3-3 Last playoff win was this year and still in playoffs this year

 

Andy Reid is the only one to have sustained success with multiple teams and multiple QB'S starting for him. Reid, is leading in almost every category, except for those that Belicheck holds. That being said, all of BB's success is tied to Brady. Reid has won with multiple QB'S and 2 teams. In Philly he won with Mcnabb, Kolb, Vick. In KC he was won with, Alex Smith and Mahomes.

Belicheck will always have the Wins and 6 superbowl championships. He's also lost countless assistants to other HC promotions and front office people over all those years. However he's not looked so great post Brady.

Tomlin has done a hell of a job with the same organization since he took over in 07. He has even surpassed Cowher now in wins. It's hard to separate his success from that of Big Ben, much like BB and Brady. 

McCarthy also owes much of his success to mainly Aaron Rodgers, however he was won with Prescott and even Cooper Rush when Prescott got injured. He's an interesting case as his overall record took a hit in his last 2 years in Green Bay and his first year with Dallas. But the cowboys have gone 12-5 in each of the last 3 seasons.

Payton owes almost all of his success to Brees and bounty gate.

Harbaugh has had either Flacco or Lamar since taking over. So he's not really faced to much trouble with finding a good QB either

Carroll's bulk of wins came under Russ. 2 losing seasons prior to him. However he's had a winning record with Geno Smith at the helm the last 2 years.

McDermott has been blessed with Josh Allen

McVay has had Goff and Stafford his whole tenure.

Shannahan has had the least impressive QB'S to work with:

Garappolo, Beathard, Mullens, Hoyer and now Purdy. So he has certainly done the most with the least at the QB position since he became a head coach in 2017.

My final thoughts are this:

Reid is the best coach in the NFL right now.  If you want youth, then Shannahan is the best offensive minded head coach and Mcdermott is the best defensive minded head coach. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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