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2024 Draft: Day 3 (Rounds 4-7)


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1 minute ago, chknwing said:

I dunno, was this really BPA

Meh, doesn’t seem like it. Seems like with 3 DTs in the last 4 picks that we didn’t want to risk him going.

I don’t know why we are ignoring C though as it and LT (still an issue) are the OL holes. LT could be OK if Iky improves but Corbett is not a long term option and may not even be a good short term solution. C is a much bigger need and was closer to BPA.

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Another wasted pick. . .

. . .this will go down as a historically bad draft for Carolina.

 

 

Jaden Crumedy

DL, MISSST

6-5 / 305 LBS

Rating: 69.70 (Role player)
Pro Comparison: Levi Onwuzurike
Summary

Jaden Crumedy is a sixth-year DT with positional versatility because of his length, fluidity and natural power. Looks like an NFL DT right now. Best out at 5T where there's more space for him to operate. Burst and bend are showcased out there, and his hand work flashes are impressive, although at times, he's gets lazy and blockers easily get into his pads. Works blocker's edges well and will scrape/spin off blocks, although it's somewhat of a rarity that he gets clean quickly. Not a double-team eater, and for as clearly athletically gifted as he is, he's not in the backfield much. High motor. Will miss a lot of tackles and not an awesome block-shedder right now. Hands are not exactly active. There's some intrigue to his game because of the variety of his positional usage and his burst/bend, but not a ton of upside because of his age and lack of pass-rush move deployment.

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  • Career: 53 games played (47 starts, including 39 consecutive)
  • 2023: Career-high 35 tackles
Strengths
  • Has the frame to play multiple spots up front
  • Flashed pass-rush moves at 5T
  • High motor
Weaknesses
  • For as athletic as he is, rarely in the backfield
  • Doesn't deploy his length how he should, easily controlled
  • One of the oldest prospects in the class
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7 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

this draft class is shaping up to be very similar to most of our recent draft classes 

Well it's entirely the same scouting room, same guys who've done all the reports the last 3 years.  Only difference is Fitt and his chins aren't there.  

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6 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Must not like Beaux Limmer or Brenden Rice

It’s basically the same crew as the last 3 drafts. It really seems like we have a hard time going outside of our visits/interviews for late round picks. We don’t see to do well at all with guys who dropped that may or are be better overall players than guys we met.

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2 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

It’s basically the same crew as the last 3 drafts. It really seems like we have a hard time going outside of our visits/interviews for late round picks. We don’t see to do well at all with guys who dropped that may or are be better overall players than guys we met.


Does any team choose outside their visit pool regularly?

 

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Just now, WhoKnows said:

It’s basically the same crew as the last 3 drafts. It really seems like we have a hard time going outside of our visits/interviews for late round picks. We don’t see to do well at all with guys who dropped that may or are be better overall players than guys we met.

I can agree with this.  We keep our focus on our top likes and don't let notable droppers influence our decision-making.  Even if those droppers align with needs.  We'll see.  The WR room still has me pretty nervous.  

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2 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

I can agree with this.  We keep our focus on our top likes and don't let notable droppers influence our decision-making.  Even if those droppers align with needs.  We'll see.  The WR room still has me pretty nervous.  


Realistically, are teams going to draft guys they haven’t done deep background work on? 

Physicals, character, etc.

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