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2025 QB Draft Class

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On 4/29/2024 at 11:45 PM, Martin said:

Milroe would fly up draft boards with a good year as a passer. I could easily see him go #1 overall if he makes a jump.

Agreed. At risk of being called out for Bama Fandom again, I think the biggest home run swing in '25 might actually be Milroe depending on how the season goes. He's definitely set up to be the Anthony Richardson of this draft. He also beat Beck last year and gets Penix's coach this year.

Then again, I saw his interview after beating Georgia and he won't wow anyone at the steakhouse, so...

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23 hours ago, Jaxel said:

2025 QB draft is like the Kenny Pickett draft, you might as well hope Bryce wins you 8 games enough to keep him around 1 extra year so we can maybe get a good QB in 2026.

Woof, not THAT bad.   That draft class had ZERO first rounders.  Yeah, I know, Pickett went #19 to the hometown Steelers.  I personally had zero first round grades on QBs in that draft.  If the Steelers didn't catch Pickett, he very well could have made it to the second round.

I'm going to compare it to the QB 2020 draft, although the top guy won't be as good as Burrow, but still should go #1 overall.  You'll probably have a couple more guys go in the top 10 (Tua, Herbert) and there may be a Love or Hurts in the late first/early second.

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Just now, rayzor said:

i hope we don't need one.

Needing one and drafting one is two separate things. We might need one, but Bryce will get a 3rd season unless he simply looks atrocious out there.  We could draft a backup as this is Dalton's last season, but a straight up replacement for Bryce I don't see in the cards until the 2026 draft at the earliest.

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On 5/19/2024 at 6:58 PM, Martin said:

I think it will end up being a pretty good qb draft. Don’t see the comparison with the Pickett draft

Decent draft for QBs, but not where you want to be absolutely needing your franchise QB.  I knew the Pickett draft was going to suck, BTW.

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On 5/13/2024 at 8:37 AM, rayzor said:

i hope we don't need one.

I don’t think we will and I don’t see anyone next season in college better than Bryce although I am admittedly still very high on his potential 

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The few big boards I've seen so far are not high on QBs, one didn't have the first QB on their board until 10.  I really hope by the end of the season we see 3 qbs in the top 5 or 6.

Not because I want us to draft one, but because we all know there is a good chance we'll be drafting in the top 5, possibly even #1.  Considering what we gave up to Chicago to take a flyer on a QB at #1, we could get a real haul of picks to rebuild.

And before someone says something foolish like "if we're picking first, we'll pick another QB," we're not unless a can't miss player that we just cant pass up is available.

Bryce deserves a chance with a new coach, an Oline, and some receivers that can get open.  We'll be closer to making a decision on him after next season.

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On 5/30/2024 at 5:42 PM, Captain Morgan said:

The few big boards I've seen so far are not high on QBs, one didn't have the first QB on their board until 10.  I really hope by the end of the season we see 3 qbs in the top 5 or 6.

Not because I want us to draft one, but because we all know there is a good chance we'll be drafting in the top 5, possibly even #1.  Considering what we gave up to Chicago to take a flyer on a QB at #1, we could get a real haul of picks to rebuild.

And before someone says something foolish like "if we're picking first, we'll pick another QB," we're not unless a can't miss player that we just cant pass up is available.

Bryce deserves a chance with a new coach, an Oline, and some receivers that can get open.  We'll be closer to making a decision on him after next season.

We screwed up a couple years ago taking Bryce in the first place.  Nobody held a gun to our head to jump from #9 to #1.  Most people who keep up with draft news knew this 2024 QB class was loaded and we should have waited, which I advocated. It was a dumb move and I knew it.  Now we have to roll with Bryce another year.  That's fine, because this 2025 class isn't that great.  I like Ewers, but not super high on him.  If Bryce shows improvement, which I think he will, that should get him at least one more season before we have to decide on if he's the permanent answer or not.  I've said before, the 2026 draft is the next window for a franchise QB if Bryce isn't the answer. Bryce gets this year and next at a minimum.

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On 5/30/2024 at 5:42 PM, Captain Morgan said:

The few big boards I've seen so far are not high on QBs, one didn't have the first QB on their board until 10.  I really hope by the end of the season we see 3 qbs in the top 5 or 6.

Not because I want us to draft one, but because we all know there is a good chance we'll be drafting in the top 5, possibly even #1.  Considering what we gave up to Chicago to take a flyer on a QB at #1, we could get a real haul of picks to rebuild.

And before someone says something foolish like "if we're picking first, we'll pick another QB," we're not unless a can't miss player that we just cant pass up is available.

Bryce deserves a chance with a new coach, an Oline, and some receivers that can get open.  We'll be closer to making a decision on him after next season.

If we are picking first in 2025 then something has gone tragically wrong and we are looking at 3ish wins.  And with that you can bet your ass we are getting another qb.  And yes I understand that the jags just had this happen but that is completely different

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There's a lot of guys with all the tools you look for that could be in 2025.  Thing is, their in-game ability to take command of an offense has only shown in flashes. And they have their flaws.

Carson Beck 6'4 220, above avg to great arm strength, great size, another UGA product or more?

Shedeur Sanders 6'2 215, above avg arm, playmaker.. is a diva presence a legit issue?

Drew Allar 6'5 240 lively, monster arm - outstanding measurables and tools.  Stuck in a bad offense/can he show more in big moments?

Quinn Ewers 6'2 205, above avg arm strength, showed some iffiness - big year ahead

Jalen Milroe 6'2 220, dual threat, great arm ... can he pull it together this year?

Cameron Ward 6'2 225, great arm, pocket presence, can be too aggressive but has a lot to love

 

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    • Mr. Scot
      Why does Bryce get the blame?

      By Mr. Scot · Posted

      They're examples of denying reality. Here are some others: ,- Bryce is the worst QB in the NFL right now (no he isn't) - Bryce is the worst QB in NFL history (no he's not; that's stupid) - Well then Bryce is at least the the worst QB in the league over the last three years (nope, he's actually improved a lot since year one, which was a turbulent year anyway) - That's not true, he hasn't Improved one but since his rookie year (oh come on) 🙄 - Well, even if he did, we can't win with him (obviously we can) - Yeah but not unless everyone else is damn near perfect (think the game film from our wins this year would back that up?) - Even so, we won those games in spite of him (officially the stupidest argument available) And no, those are made up. You can find those quotes and other equally moronic statements in various threads around the board. I know some folks always need to characterize whatever they're against as the worst thing in existence. It's hyperbole, and it's hypersilly. Likewise, you've got some who are so absolutely emotional about it that even if you think Bryce isn't good enough (which I do) they'll still call you a stan if you don't agree to label him the lousiest passer in existence 🙄 It's just dumb, and it's not realistic. But on the flipside, here are some statements which are; - Bryce is indeed capable of both playing in, and winning, an NFL game. Not on a consistent level though, and consistency is huge. - He is also capable of completing mid-range and even some deep passes; hell, he threw a beauty this past Sunday  - Yes, he has improved over his rookie season and over last year. Arguing against that is disingenuous. - Believe it or not, other players are the roster do make mistakes in games also.  - And lastly, while I know it hurts some people's narrative and arguments, Bryce does indeed deserve credit for the winning games he's played in this season. ... Every single one of those statements is true. And since i acknowledge all that, I must be in favor of keeping him in place then Except I'm not 😕 ... Don't know of anyone who doesn't think he'll get the fifth year option. Not ready to guarantee anything beyond that, though. So bottom line: Yeah, Bryce is fully expected to be our quarterback through next year. If there were a logical, realistic path to acquire a more capable starter and transition Bryce to a backup I'd be elated, but that's a pipe dream. This where we're at  I don't **** it, you don't like it, others don't either. But here We are so let's make the best of it that we can.
    • carolinanimal
      Ekwonu doesn’t get dog walked under 2 minutes in the 4th, we drive, kick a FG and win

      By carolinanimal · Posted

      What does it matter how fast the wrs are with Bryce he is not hitting them anyway
    • frankw
      Ekwonu doesn’t get dog walked under 2 minutes in the 4th, we drive, kick a FG and win

      By frankw · Posted

      Let's be real. Signing Matt Kalil who was at the time inconsistent at best was always an extremely risky move and largely initiated by the fact he was related to one of our most prominent players Ryan Kalil. Memories get fuzzy the longer time passes I guess. Go watch some old Panthers games with Ted Ginn nearly losing us games. Then watch Cam Newton keep going back to him again and again and again. Then read all the Xavier Legette criticism while making excuses for Bryce being swept by rookie 2nd round pick Tyler Shough. Throwing TMac under the bus is just further proof how deranged the Bryce Young defense force has become. Bryce Young can barely compete in this gutter iteration of the NFC South. Let's see him take this WR core to the playoffs in an NFC South with Drew Brees and Matt Ryan
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