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Jim Nagy on Dave Canales

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2 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I don’t really care if all he says is “it is what it is” or “we picked a bad day to have a bad day” or “missed opportunities” as long as he wins.

Exactly, Coker was someone most people knew about. He was rated by the NFL as a 5th/6th round pick and I’m sure we scouted him. Acting like he’s an unknown UDFA is silly as he probably was among the first folks we talked to post draft. Canales knowing about Coker doesn’t make him a winning coach, nor does it make Coker a better prospect. If they are, they are, not because Nagy’s impressed that Canales knows Coker. Maybe we should be less impressed that Nagy doesn’t know Coker.

I’m way more optimistic than last year, mainly because Fittermagic is gone but I’m waiting until we win before we announce that we’re all good now. Feels like every year since the 1-7 finish in 2018 we have these same OMG this guy does it way differently than our scrubs before until we realize we hired or kept scrubs and they weren’t better.

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2 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

I’m way more optimistic than last year, mainly because Fittermagic is gone but I’m waiting until we win before we announce that we’re all good now. Feels like every year since the 1-7 finish in 2018 we have these same OMG this guy does it way differently than our scrubs before until we realize we hired or kept scrubs and they weren’t better.

I could see it going either way.  He could be the next Pete Carroll, but you know even Pete didn't get it quite right until he took the Seattle job.

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Well a good sign is that Canales knows the difference between college and NFL talent level. 

Maybe he can teach the scouts to see it.

In other news, he has to be a total offensive wizard to make a Bryce Young led offense to scare anyone. Hope he can be that. 

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On 5/11/2024 at 1:03 PM, ForJimmy said:

He is an easy coach to cheer for. I hope he works out for us. 

I think this is important on the players side as well. If the players find it easy to play for him and he can encourage them to play harder and work harder and they take to that easier because of the type of person he is, then I could seem him going places as long as he himself understands the game at the high level it seems. I'm cautiously optimistic, like most seasons.

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On 5/10/2024 at 10:17 PM, amcoolio said:

Can you imagine Rhule saying any of that lol

What we have here is a picture of the landscape of football against the landscape of the field painted with numbers that we've drawn up with a certain number of players who create the image that we see in our offensive landscape. 

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