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Caleb Williams is struggling big time in OTAs

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Watching the Bears over hype him after historically bad QB play on that team has been fun, well that and crap coaching. It's like they learned nothing from last year even if the players are polar opposites. I don't see a Cam in him, he looks like what I feared Cam was coming out early in his draft process where Cam made me feel better as it went along and Williams made be doubt more. I still don't see how he ends up the best QB in his class. 

The funniest thing is that they could walk from him next year and just waste a bonus pick while still picking in the top 5 again.  

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Part of me wanted Caleb last year but his occasional struggles during his final season gave me pause. Can't put too much stock on OTA performances but I have this feeling that Caleb is going to be rather erratic, some real big highs but some absolute stinkers.

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He strikes me as a lackadaisical type that doesn't really care about the game or putting in the work but has a lot of effortless talent so he has been able to skate on by

Chicago always blows their offensive picks. Its an epidemic. Wouldn't surprise me if Rome busts too

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4 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

He strikes me as a lackadaisical type that doesn't really care about the game or putting in the work but has a lot of effortless talent so he has been able to skate on by

Chicago always blows their offensive picks. Its an epidemic. Wouldn't surprise me if Rome busts too

More likely Rome ends up being a waste of talent there. Won't be his fault.

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3 hours ago, Waldo said:

Watching the Bears over hype him after historically bad QB play on that team has been fun, well that and crap coaching. It's like they learned nothing from last year even if the players are polar opposites. I don't see a Cam in him, he looks like what I feared Cam was coming out early in his draft process where Cam made me feel better as it went along and Williams made be doubt more. I still don't see how he ends up the best QB in his class. 

The funniest thing is that they could walk from him next year and just waste a bonus pick while still picking in the top 5 again.  

it's almost like maybe not draft a Bryce or Caleb #1 over all when they didn't do anything to elevate their teams in their final college seasons. I guess you have to pick someone and at least they didn't do a ridiculous trade up for him. Cam was the best player at Auburn and willed his team to a championship, the other 2 just mentioned didn't even make the college playoffs in their senior years. How is that not a red flag?

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4 hours ago, Waldo said:

Watching the Bears over hype him after historically bad QB play on that team has been fun, well that and crap coaching. It's like they learned nothing from last year even if the players are polar opposites. I don't see a Cam in him, he looks like what I feared Cam was coming out early in his draft process where Cam made me feel better as it went along and Williams made be doubt more. I still don't see how he ends up the best QB in his class. 

The funniest thing is that they could walk from him next year and just waste a bonus pick while still picking in the top 5 again.  

I gotta admit, it will be highly entertaining if he busts after watching Bears fans act like they have a HOF QB when he hasn't taken an NFL snap yet. You'd think fans if an organization with a long history of QB futility would be a little more cautious than that but "fan" is short for "fanatic" for a reason.

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I gotta admit, it will be highly entertaining if he busts after watching Bears fans act like they have a HOF QB when he hasn't taken an NFL snap yet. 

Gee that sounds awful familiar.

I’d say, obviously not referring to you.

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

There were a few people that were fully aboard the Bryce train but it honestly felt like a minority. 

They were definitely more focused on being right about the draft pick than which QB would actually pan out. It got tiresome, and I'm pretty sure 80% of them have not appeared since week 2 of last year?

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I just remember being ridiculed for dissenting on the Young narrative here. Which was he is ... well, y’all remember. 

Last preseason (excluding a little post draft bitching), since there was no pro evidence, I couldn’t talk until football was played on the field. Fair enough.

We have 16 games documented, I can speak freely. The Young supporters hate that.

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6 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

it's almost like maybe not draft a Bryce or Caleb #1 over all when they didn't do anything to elevate their teams in their final college seasons. I guess you have to pick someone and at least they didn't do a ridiculous trade up for him. Cam was the best player at Auburn and willed his team to a championship, the other 2 just mentioned didn't even make the college playoffs in their senior years. How is that not a red flag?

Bad teams tend to do bad things but these guys also have agents who do too good of a job sometimes. I really wonder how infested some teams are with input from the media....because most of those are terrible and lazy in the draft process. 

 

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6 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I gotta admit, it will be highly entertaining if he busts after watching Bears fans act like they have a HOF QB when he hasn't taken an NFL snap yet. You'd think fans if an organization with a long history of QB futility would be a little more cautious than that but "fan" is short for "fanatic" for a reason.

The way they have been acting makes me think they deserve that outcome. They should have celebrated the hell out of the free pick for sure but what they have done since the draft just looks like they learned nothing from their team history or what Carolina went through last year. 

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