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On 5/29/2024 at 1:12 PM, t96 said:

2 things can be true. 
 

we sucked all around last year and it was obvious

 

but preseason still means absolutely nothing.

 

we looked like poo 2015 preseason and KB went down everyone thought the season was doomed. 

We looked like poo? That's revisionist history my friend. 

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3 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Really was. I think this is when Frank knew the wheels were falling off. Didn't they cancel the last day or something? The oline was gonna get Bryce killed.

Yes I believe they did cancel the last day.

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On 5/29/2024 at 1:12 PM, t96 said:

2 things can be true. 
 

we sucked all around last year and it was obvious

 

but preseason still means absolutely nothing.

 

we looked like poo 2015 preseason and KB went down everyone thought the season was doomed. 

Sorry, but in 2015, we didn’t look like poo to the extent of 2023. People who said it’s just preseason were completely wrong. Simple as that. 2015 was a veteran lead team. It was Cam’s 5th year and Luke’s 4th. Even our OL was 80% the same (added Oher) as the great run to finish 2014 with a playoff win.

That year can be labeled as preseason doesn’t matter because I’m sure we rested vets and well, Ron/Mike weren’t putting in special plays, etc. I absolutely don’t recall a bunch of us saying that Turner was getting killed on one on ones or that Luke was completely out of position or that Norman was hurt again but probably fine.

The only thing that was right about the 2023 preseason is that the minority of us who saw it, were correct that we A) should have been making Young and others play 100% of the reps as there was nothing to hide and B) the preseason means nothing was a bunch of BS trying to stay optimistic when it was obvious that we had way less good talent than the rest of the NFL.

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3 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Really was. I think this is when Frank knew the wheels were falling off. Didn't they cancel the last day or something? The oline was gonna get Bryce killed.

Yep. It was an obvious red flag that a lot of people ignored. The results/scores in preseason don’t matter, but individual performance very much does and individually, we looked like the least talented team in the league and it carried over.

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13 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Really was. I think this is when Frank knew the wheels were falling off. Didn't they cancel the last day or something? The oline was gonna get Bryce killed.

There were 3 reality checks last year. 

1) The joint practice/preseason game with the Jets showed everyone the team wasn't what everyone at BOA stadium thought it was. 

2) Dalton starting against Seattle and moving the offense better than Bryce had the first two games or all preseason.

3) Not beating the Bears who were just as beat up as us and knowing we gave them the No. 1 pick. 

I think Frank was fired after the Bears game. The blowout loss to Dallas and then not being able to beat an imploding Tennessee team just accelerated it. 

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2 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

There were 3 reality checks last year. 

1) The joint practice/preseason game with the Jets showed everyone the team wasn't what everyone at BOA stadium thought it was.

The Jet game/practices/hard knocks was truly the "wtf is happening" moment for the 2023 team.  Everything looked whacked but some on here just cried "preseason doesnt matter" when in fact it clearly does.

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26 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

The Jet game/practices/hard knocks was truly the "wtf is happening" moment for the 2023 team.  Everything looked whacked but some on here just cried "preseason doesnt matter" when in fact it clearly does.

Some don't get this. Sure, "winning" the preseason game doesn't matter, but looking at least competent against average competition does. 

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22 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Some don't get this. Sure, "winning" the preseason game doesn't matter, but looking at least competent against average competition does. 

That’s what we said and the defenders club didn’t get it. It’s very simple and not hard to understand. It’s kind of like the “why can’t you just be happy” comments now as if we aren’t 25-66 since the implosion in the second half of 2018 on our 4th coach and 3rd GM in 6 years.

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14 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

That’s what we said and the defenders club didn’t get it. It’s very simple and not hard to understand. It’s kind of like the “why can’t you just be happy” comments now as if we aren’t 25-66 since the implosion in the second half of 2018 on our 4th coach and 3rd GM in 6 years.

Tell it.

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