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A comparison of QBs drafted #1 overall

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Davidson Deac II Grand Master

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If you draft a qb at number one, or anywhere in the top ten for that matter, fans expect him to be elite.  Since there are only 10-12 elite qb's in the NFL at any one time, it rarely works out that.  And 10-12 might be pushing it.  

But if Young fails, we get another shot next year.  

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6 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

If you draft a qb at number one, or anywhere in the top ten for that matter, fans expect him to be elite.  Since there are only 10-12 elite qb's in the NFL at any one time, it rarely works out that.  And 10-12 might be pushing it.  

But if Young fails, we get another shot next year.  

I think just by using probability and no analysis whatsoever one could say “based on what I see player X is not gonna work out. I hope I’m wrong but that’s the way I see it” and you would be right a lot more than being wrong. 

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17 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Here's some more of them stats. CJ/AR top left/right, Levis/BY bottom left/right

 

Pretty polarizing. However, I think the point of this thread was QBs drafted #1 overall. Just showing how they typical struggle and go into bad situations.

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1 hour ago, NCBlu said:

The draft is and always will be a craps shoot so I just don't understand trading away so much on 1 player that may or may not workout. Just take the best guys at your spot and roll with it.

 

 

That sounds good in theory but in today's NFL you have to have a top-tier QB (along with other things) to have more than a snowball's shot at winning the Super Bowl. As such, the limited pool of guys that appear to have that kind of potential require a cost to get, either outright sucking or paying to get in that draft range. 

Some teams pay an external price, like Carolina did, for their guy, like the Chiefs and Mahomes. The problem arises when the pick is wrong, and in Carolina's case they picked a guy who is a physical outlier on the wrong end of the curve to not only reach that status, but to do so when damn near no one else at his size ever has. Just an extra-thick additional layer of risk in what is already a risky proposition.

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On 6/13/2024 at 8:04 PM, CPF4LIFE said:

Well...if bryce doesnt make a pro bowl by next year and even if he does is everybody ready to give him damn near 300 million? Because thats what its gonna be.

If we gave Bryce an extension after 2 years of a 5 year deal, you can just shut the doors to the facility and move the team wherever you want. 

I mean, I would say that about just about any rookie we have. That's just plum retarded.

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